Cambrian Wagon Kits

[barrycambrian]

We will be bringing out a plastic kit in 4mm scale for the 8 plank end door wagon that appears to have been built by the SR for the LNER around 1946.
The drawing is said to be D192 in the Southern Wagon books (SR D1390).
Hopefully this should be out in the first half of 2008 (Kit no. C59)

If there are no surprise Toy Fair announcements, we are also intending to release a kit for the LNER 6 plank open wagon - 9 foot wheelbase with wood underframe, perhaps later this year.

We hope to do a kit for the Quint D, as it can use some of the mouldings from our C56 BR Bolster D kit, but there is no release date for this yet.
The diamond bogies for this will be "one-piece" with the axlebox fronts supplied loose. The bogies will be available separately.

Barry,
Cambrian Models

[jwealleans]

Excellent news, Barry. I shall look forward to those.

You asked about other wagons which might use your current underframes, or close to them: what about the GE mineral with the twin strapping which Kenline (?) used to do? There's a bit of a dearth of pregrouping 'company' opens - GC, GN - could any of those share an underframe?

[barrycambrian]

The twin strapping GE wagon might be a possibility, as it has distinctive features.
It could go on the underframe for our SECR wagons which are 17' x 9'6", the same as the GE wagon. The mould for this has removable pieces where the brake levers are (to make different levers for each side), so new pieces could be made to have proper GE levers as part of the underframe moulding.
Axleboxes would have to be cut off,and GE ones fitted, although the SECR ones aren't that different if you just file the front flat. It might be better to include the springs as they're more curved than the SECR ones.

The old OPC Peter Tatlow LNER Wagons book is a bit thin on wagon quantities, but perhaps the recent ones have a bit more detail.

If we do the GE wagon, it is unlikely that it would be this year.

Barry,
Cambrian Models

[richard]

Yes they do have quantities. The new Tatlow books are more than just an extension of the old one - strongly recommended for wagon modellers!


Richard

[barrycambrian]

Yes they do have quantities. The new Tatlow books are more than just an extension of the old one - strongly recommended for wagon modellers!

Thanks for this, Richard. Will have a look while at Nottingham Show.

As seemed likely, Bachmann didn't have the LNER 6 plank in their list of forthcoming wagons, so we'll try and fit in a kit later in the year.

This will have RCH axleboxes as we'll be using our existing wood 16' 6" underframe with a 17' 6" solebar on the body sprue (like our C58 LMS 5 plank kit), together with a Morton brakelever, and LNER axleboxes for anyone who wants to change the RCH ones.

Barry,
Cambrian

[rob]

Hi again Barry,I'm moving over to this thread as it seems to be the best one for discussing your kits.Heres a photo you might like

The light blue Stevenson and the Wilkinson are both from your kits with Powsides.Its much more accurate than the Bachmann Stevenson,and thats acknowledging the high quality of Bachmanns current PO's.
A point I should make is that I (and I'm sure all the others on here) don't just buy LNE prototypes-I have SR,LMS etc from you as well so all new wagons are welcome-though post 1939 are outside my timescale. Here are a few suggestions for this more populated thread!
I repeat again-Scottish "Jubilee" coal wagon
Given you have tackled the Acid Jar wagon,any chance of the Hurst Nelson Chlorine Tank recently done by Robt Tivendale in 7mm,Powsides Ref 737?There are at least three transfer options for them
And I strongly support Jons suggestion about the GE wagon,and indeed pre-group wagons in general.I'm also quite happy with reasonably generic underframes when the general outlines are as convincing as yours are.
In fact having looked at your website there are a lot of your kits I need to catch up with!Its great to see so many new kits coming on stream,thanks very much!
Rob

[PhilM]

Anything ex GER is fine for me!! I think the previous manufacturer of the twin strap open was Stelfox. The strangest thing about the model was the way the ends sat outside the sides, making the join difficult to hide.

D&S pre-group wagons go for a fortune on ebay idicating something of a market for interesting kits.

Pre group outside frame vans are always interesting - I dont know if any would be suitable for you?

[barrycambrian]

C59 LNER D.192 8 plank open wagon: tooling for this kit was delayed, but is now fairly advanced and it should be available in September.
According to the SR wagon book, Ashford built 1,850 wagons for the LNER about 1946. Peter Tatlow's earler LNER wagon book has a photo of what appears to an identical wagon, said to have been built at Darlington in 1945.
If so, is anything known about the number of wagons built by the LNER itself?

Although it's a while since they were asked, there were a couple of suggestions which I don't seem to have answered:

The Hurst Nelson Chlorine wagon is quite interesting, but I don't think we would be very likely to do a kit for it.

Outside framed vans: the only one envisaged at the moment is an LSWR one, that suits the 18' underframe needed for the LSWR 7 plank open.

Barry
Cambrian

[rob]

The Hurst Nelson Chlorine wagon is quite interesting, but I don't think we would be very likely to do a kit for it.

.........but very understandable,imagine the balance sheet if I were your only customer!
Look forward to the others though,even if 1946 is out of my time I think I can find room for it!
Rob

[barrycambrian]

The SR/LNER 13ton 8 plank kit is out now. Here's a picture of the LNER type:

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I saw A. Blackburn, one of the authors of the SR Wagon books, at Scaleforum last weekend, and he confirmed that the wagons were all built at Ashford. The LNER number series is given in the back of the SR Book.

Barry,
Cambrian

[barrycambrian]

It's taken a bit (!) longer than expected, but the kit for the LNER 6 plank open is now available. This is the 9 foot wheelbase version. At present it does not come with LNER axleboxes, as it seems that the wagons as built had RCH ones. It has the straight end stanchions fitted on wagons built at Doncaster, but these can be filed to the Darlington pattern - as on the wagon that can just be seen on the right hand side of the picture.

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Some tooling has also been done for the LNER Quint D which will be out next year.

We now have more details of the GE 7 plank, and this should be added to our range at some point, possibly towards the end of next year.

Barry,
Cambrian Models

[chaz harrison]

Do Cambrian have any plans to do kits in 7mm I wonder?

Chaz

[jwealleans]

Excellent news. I have some of Barry's range OMWB at the moment - I'll post photos when they're done for those who are interested.

Now in progress - Barry, you may remember selling us these at Leeds. We asked for a receipt as they are for the National Trust.



Kit C84, Midland van. This has a one-piece underframe and is an absolute doddle to build.



I don't have the packets to hand so apologies if I get these wrong: this is, I think, kit C74. We were after a few round-ended early coal wagons for the Trust's LSWR layout. These will all be finished in the livery of the local (fictitious) coal merchant.



C52, I believe



Sorry, can't recall which one this is.



I think this one is C66, an SECR open. They're all built as they come out of the packet except for buffer heads, which are replaced with turned steel ones. I see I need to tidy up the buffer shanks on one or two of them. The handles on the Midland van were also shaved off and replaced with wire. They're not as straightforward as a Parkside kit but most of these were put together in one or two evenings in a hotel with basic tools and they give a nice variety to goods trains. I'll certainly be putting some of the new open on my shopping list and look forward to the GER open as well.