N5 model. has anyone built it. I am unfamilar with the brand, so any input would be cool. Am I correct in understanding they are all-brass, including rolling your own boiler?
Secondly, I understand 'GP models' produce a GCR J63 model in 7mm. does anyone have any contact details, further information etc.
cheers guys. It's a big step up to 7mm scale, so i'm treading carefully still.
Will
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I've emailed you Garth Patrick's email address and some of his flyers. I've heard good things about his kits from a number of people. Although I'm planning an NER-area layout, I'll probably try some of his GCR wagons in the new year.
New to 7mm? Same here! I've been in N for a while, but my first 7mm kits arrived earlier this week. Three Slaters plastic wagons: 2 NER hoppers and a Gloucester 6 plank. Alas some of the buffer parts from the 6 plank appear to be missing so I've just had to email them to see if they can send some replacements.
I was then going to try some GP brass wagons, and then a loco. A couple of people have recommended that I jump straight in with a loco - so I may buy a Connoisseur Y7 or Nellie at the same time as the GP wagons.
Manning Wardle 0-4-0s would match my planned inspiration, but I hear the Slaters MW 0-4-0 is not for beginners. The Y7 would be a 'plausible fiction'.
Richard
New to 7mm? Same here! I've been in N for a while, but my first 7mm kits arrived earlier this week. Three Slaters plastic wagons: 2 NER hoppers and a Gloucester 6 plank. Alas some of the buffer parts from the 6 plank appear to be missing so I've just had to email them to see if they can send some replacements.
I was then going to try some GP brass wagons, and then a loco. A couple of people have recommended that I jump straight in with a loco - so I may buy a Connoisseur Y7 or Nellie at the same time as the GP wagons.
Manning Wardle 0-4-0s would match my planned inspiration, but I hear the Slaters MW 0-4-0 is not for beginners. The Y7 would be a 'plausible fiction'.
Richard
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cheers for the info.
Just for the record my model is to be a scale-up and back-date of my 4mm scale interest. It focuses on Grimsby area c.1905-1915. It will be a minimum space shunting layout being a ficticoius branch on the banks of the Humber. Stock needs some small GC shunting engines, a load of mouldy old MSLR stock and the odd contractors locomotive which were so common in that area when much building work was going on.
anyone has any bright ideas, please don't hesitate to contact me.
Will
Just for the record my model is to be a scale-up and back-date of my 4mm scale interest. It focuses on Grimsby area c.1905-1915. It will be a minimum space shunting layout being a ficticoius branch on the banks of the Humber. Stock needs some small GC shunting engines, a load of mouldy old MSLR stock and the odd contractors locomotive which were so common in that area when much building work was going on.
anyone has any bright ideas, please don't hesitate to contact me.
Will
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Sounds like we have some overlap in ideas - albeit in different areas.
My 'inspiration' is the Aberford Railway - a private 3 mile line that ran from Garforth (on the Leeds-Selby) to Aberford. It probably pre-dated the Leeds&Selby by 2-3 years and was originally built to take coal to Aberford and the Great North Road. In later years, it took coal to the NER at Garforth (ie. the opposite direction!). Never had a visit from the inspector although it carried passengers for quite a bit of its life.
Horses initially, then MW 0-4-0s, and a Hudswell Clarke 0-6-0ST loaner for a short period.
It closed in the early 1920s. One possible "what if" would be if it survived Grouping and an Inspector's visit. It would have probably been classed as a tramway, so the LNER would have probably operated Y1/Y3s with skirts or even Y6s.
A "plausible fictional" would also be a loaner of a Y7 from the NER. I plan to build a Y7 for this purpose. (Y1s, Y6s,etc are all in the 'maybe' future!).
I have yet to sketch things out, but I'm thinking of an Inglenook shunting layout - probably as a simplification of the Aberford Depot. Also add an 0-9 loop representing one of the short lived narrow gauge feeders (stone or coal are options). This would double as an N test track.
Richard
My 'inspiration' is the Aberford Railway - a private 3 mile line that ran from Garforth (on the Leeds-Selby) to Aberford. It probably pre-dated the Leeds&Selby by 2-3 years and was originally built to take coal to Aberford and the Great North Road. In later years, it took coal to the NER at Garforth (ie. the opposite direction!). Never had a visit from the inspector although it carried passengers for quite a bit of its life.
Horses initially, then MW 0-4-0s, and a Hudswell Clarke 0-6-0ST loaner for a short period.
It closed in the early 1920s. One possible "what if" would be if it survived Grouping and an Inspector's visit. It would have probably been classed as a tramway, so the LNER would have probably operated Y1/Y3s with skirts or even Y6s.
A "plausible fictional" would also be a loaner of a Y7 from the NER. I plan to build a Y7 for this purpose. (Y1s, Y6s,etc are all in the 'maybe' future!).
I have yet to sketch things out, but I'm thinking of an Inglenook shunting layout - probably as a simplification of the Aberford Depot. Also add an 0-9 loop representing one of the short lived narrow gauge feeders (stone or coal are options). This would double as an N test track.
Richard
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i too am modelling the Grimsby area but in the 50's/60's period. I took a look at some haywood kits at the York show on Tower models stand. They are etched brass and have pre rolled boilers. The guy from Tower says they are good basic kits that fit together well, but dont have all the detail included. For example there is no backhead. I'm looking at getting one as well as the GP J63, which I have heard good things about. There is a review on the Gauge O guild website. Haywood also do a B16 which suprisingly came to Grimsby quite often.
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it amazes me there isnt more modelling interest in the Grimsby area. So much variety. Especially when stock cascaded down from the main lines. My 00 layout which i am now dismantling mainly used LNER era prototypes, including some kitbuilt jobs, but looking at my references i saw just how innacurate that was. Apart from the Thompson B1's which made it round there in the 50's, everything else seems to be pre-grouping era stock. Rather than build loads of OO stock of pre-grouping engines but in BR livery, i thought i may as well start again in the senior scale, where so much pre-grouping stock seems to be available in kit form.
cheers for the info on Haywood. Sounds much less daunting than i was lead to believe. Making a backhead shouldnt be much of a problem, you can get brass bits for about a tenner which will do a passable representation i think.
the philosophy behind my layout is a might have been short (i.e a long siding really) branch running from the Immingham-Barton branch down to the Humber bank itself. This would serve a small brickworks, which the area was famous for, or even a ropewalk. (That sort of small-scale nautical related industry which was so cmmon on the banks of the Humber.) Scenically it is so easy- just flat grassland and mud. The layout will have scope for contractors locos as they were all over the area in the early 20c. usually associated with the building of Immingham docks and small almost temporary lines like my layout represents. Indeed the preserved 'sir Berkley' manning-wardle at the vintage carriage trust was actually a g.c.r. contracted contractors engine that worked in Grimsby, Immingham and Scunthorpe. A very similar engine is photographed at the opening of Immingham docks. I believe Agenoria models makes a 7mm version of a very similar engine which is designed as a 'minimum fuss' build. inside vavle gear and all!
My first job, which is going quite well so far (underframe is done) is a build of the MSLR directors saloon, built at Gorton in 1890. Such an iconic vehicle of the GCR it was about at all the major events in its history, including the opening of Immingham docks, new branches etc. Coupled with a 6-wheeler for the staff it gives a realistic two-car train. minimum space rules! (i build in plasti-card, and will post some pictures soon)
http://www.vintagecarriagestrust.org/SirB.htm (sir berkeley)
Will
cheers for the info on Haywood. Sounds much less daunting than i was lead to believe. Making a backhead shouldnt be much of a problem, you can get brass bits for about a tenner which will do a passable representation i think.
the philosophy behind my layout is a might have been short (i.e a long siding really) branch running from the Immingham-Barton branch down to the Humber bank itself. This would serve a small brickworks, which the area was famous for, or even a ropewalk. (That sort of small-scale nautical related industry which was so cmmon on the banks of the Humber.) Scenically it is so easy- just flat grassland and mud. The layout will have scope for contractors locos as they were all over the area in the early 20c. usually associated with the building of Immingham docks and small almost temporary lines like my layout represents. Indeed the preserved 'sir Berkley' manning-wardle at the vintage carriage trust was actually a g.c.r. contracted contractors engine that worked in Grimsby, Immingham and Scunthorpe. A very similar engine is photographed at the opening of Immingham docks. I believe Agenoria models makes a 7mm version of a very similar engine which is designed as a 'minimum fuss' build. inside vavle gear and all!
My first job, which is going quite well so far (underframe is done) is a build of the MSLR directors saloon, built at Gorton in 1890. Such an iconic vehicle of the GCR it was about at all the major events in its history, including the opening of Immingham docks, new branches etc. Coupled with a 6-wheeler for the staff it gives a realistic two-car train. minimum space rules! (i build in plasti-card, and will post some pictures soon)
http://www.vintagecarriagestrust.org/SirB.htm (sir berkeley)
Will