LNER Garter Blue Discussion

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Re: LNER Garter Blue Discussion

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2750 wrote:
S.A.C. Martin wrote:Just one coat brush applied. It evens itself out really nicely on a grey primer coat. The precision stuff was awful (in my experience) as it never covered very well.
I suppose in my case, I was painting over a maroon type colour in the first place.
Anyhow, I've started now so don't wish to change.
Whatever works for you Tom - that's the beauty of modelling, individualism at its finest :)

But yeah, I would surmise painting maroon over maroon would be better. Certainly I needed to be careful with my primer application and then the coat of no.20, whereas you probably just went over with one coat without primer? Whatever, yours looks excellent and has done since you started painting the wheel sets.
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Re: LNER Garter Blue Discussion

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Whilst on the subject of painting wheels, I would be most grateful for the latest thinking on the best paint to blacken the over bright wheel rims and valve gear on some of the older models please.
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Re: LNER Garter Blue Discussion

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From memory the use of Garter Blue and Marlborough Blue for the Coronation trains was done in conjunction with the British Colour Council. A quick search suggests that the records from that Council still exist and therefore the original colour references might be available for inspection:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Colour_Council

Edit: On the other hand I have just clicked on the link at the bottom and seen where the old records are currently located. I will not be popping there in my lunchtime!
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Re: LNER Garter Blue Discussion

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Using that link in the previous post one should look at the traditional British Colours for the Coronation of King George VI and Queen Elizabeth in a further link in the Wikipedia Entry. It's obvious that the colours used for the Coronation train were culled from what one could call official colours!
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What about a long weekend then Mike, it's just over the pond. :lol:
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Dave wrote:What about a long weekend then Mike, it's just over the pond. :lol:
It seems odd that the British records have ended up over there!
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Re: LNER Garter Blue Discussion

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After trying some of the links this one does seem to suggest that Garter Blue is as used on the medals:

http://patrickbaty.co.uk/2012/01/03/tra ... george-vi/

Have not found Marlborough Blue yet.
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Has to be the logical conclusion. :)
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Well that was a surprise. Found a copy of the Coronation booklet on Amazon. Duly purchased!
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Re: LNER Garter Blue Discussion

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Here is a scan of the relevant part of the British Colour Council specification for the 1937 Coronation.

At the top is the elusive Garter Blue.

What is the betting that the paler blue and the lower crimson are the other ones used on the Coronation train and A4 wheels.
Coronation Colours.jpg
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Re: LNER Garter Blue Discussion

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MikeTrice wrote:What is the betting that the paler blue and the lower crimson are the other ones used on the Coronation train and A4 wheels.
I'm not a betting man but I would think that is a "dead cert"! :)
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PS:

Great detective work sir!
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Re: LNER Garter Blue Discussion

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2002EarlMarischal wrote:PS:

Great detective work sir!
I concur with that statement.
Hi interested in the area served by 52D. also researching colliery wagonways from same area.
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