Hornsey carriage sidings ECML

[Mickey]

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[PinzaC55]

It sounds possible PinzaC55 and if it didn't happen who cares i like these kind of stories.

Like the man said- "When it comes down to printing the facts or printing the myth print the myth everytime!!."

It reminds me of a story that i heard 30 plus years ago of someone with a 'loco key' taking a loco (think it was a class 31?) off Stratford shed and driving her across the north London line then down the WCML and dumping her somewhere up in the north west!!. They seem to think it was a 'loco spotter' who got hold of a loco key??.

Don't know if it was a true story but i would like to think it was.

Not impossible as I recently saw a drivers key on Ebay. At Kings Cross in the 80's we had one guard who used to wear a Star Trek shirt (really!) and he thought he would "do the driver a favour" by moving the train out of Ferme Park down to Hornsey Station. Sadly for him the driver was a stickler for the rules and he reduced the guard to tears before demanding that he hand over the key and telling him never to do anything like that again.

[Mickey]

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[PinzaC55]

At Kings Cross in the 80's we had one guard who used to wear a Star Trek shirt (really!) and he thought he would "do the driver a favour" by moving the train out of Ferme Park down to Hornsey Station. Sadly for him the driver was a stickler for the rules and he reduced the guard to tears before demanding that he hand over the key and telling him never to do anything like that again.

That story reminds me of a secondman at Kings Cross in the 1970s who 'foolishly' in my opinion during a A.S.L.E.& F. dispute with management moved a loco on his own initiative either from the station to the passenger loco or vice versa??. Goes without saying that this guy didn't stay to much longer as a secondman.

There was also a much publicised case that was in the national media back in the late 1980s of a secondman on the (then) southern region who claimed that he use to regularly drive express passenger trains out of Waterloo much to public (especially thoughs commuter's that lived a long the route to Basingstoke & Salisbury) and the railway unions outcry!!.

Sorry to deviate the topic guy's.

I heard that story as well and I am sure it was true, as I saw far, far worse with my own eyes. We KX guards were mostly consigned to the living death of the Southern region in 1989. There was one driver who regularly let his "boil in the bag" girlfriend/guard drive the train and drivers would often let unsupervised trainee drivers drive their trains.

[cambois]

Am I right in remembering the head on crash at Cowden on the Uckfield line - when it was thought the guard was driving on an early saturday morning turn

[PinzaC55]

Yes. At the very least he was in the driving cab which is against the rules.

Incidentally just been reading the Report into Cowden http://www.railwaysarchive.co.uk/docume ... en1994.pdf

[DaveGN]

The latest on the removal of the Hornsey Control Tower, is that originally it was due to come down this weekend, being done by a crane on site.
Network Rail have now decided to tender it out to demolition contractors for safety reasons.
It looks like it may be about for a while yet!

[Mickey]

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[manna]

G'Day Gents

Bring back sanity, two loco's and a chain and it would be gone in 5 minutes, just like the Kings Cross roundhouse, back in the thirties

manna

[StevieG]

Tut, tut! That'd be unacceptable now.
The workers might be injured by debris, unusual stresses placed on the locos necessitating full structural integrity testing, toxic or otherwise hazardous substances released to atmosphere, nasty plants disturbed (Japanese Knotweed) and spores spread over a wider area, no check on whether protected life would be put at risk (great crested newts, roman snails), dust could obscure nearby signal aspects and inconvenience the railway's neighbours, there might be no work method statement or risk assessment into the whole job, roles and responsibilities of everyone involved not defined, ......... zzzzzzzzzz

[Andy W]

In the good old days, if the local DCE gang were given "double-12" on a weekend, with the aid of a stockyard crane it would be down and away in a set of meds & highs for Connington and there would be no mess left on site on Sunday evening.

Whether they would have bothered to tell us in the M&EE to disconnect the elecy is another matter!! Though we usually got the tip on weekend demolition jobs as that would be 8 hours Saturday for an electrician and mate.

[PinzaC55]

G'Day Gents

Bring back sanity, two loco's and a chain and it would be gone in 5 minutes, just like the Kings Cross roundhouse, back in the thirties

manna

http://www.britishpathe.com/video/mass- ... ill+Bridge

http://www.flickr.com/photos/beamishmuseum/4894762072/

[Mickey]

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[PinzaC55]

Do you remember the "Hornsey Tramp" who used to light fires between the Up Fast and Up Slow lines in the 1980's?

[macduff]

Micky, the Hornsey carriage sidings site will soon be a building site. This will be the Thames link depot to handle their new stock when it is built, i understand the stock will be 12 car sets.The depot was going to have a 8 road shed and offices but i think that has changed after the local MP got involved because the local residents who bought new flats on the down side opposite the yard complained that they would have extra noise from the trains, well fancy buying a flat next to the ECML. This will also mean that Hornsey emu depot will be remodeled, canal tunnel jct work starts at Belle isle towards the end of the year to link with ST Pancras, that will take about 18 months, and the Hertford intergrated test facility is on going with re signalling of the Hertford North and Gordon Hill interlocking,so lots of work on the kings cross area for some years.