Atlantic's works: Portable layout - Scenic details next

[Mercator II]

Hi Auld Reekie

Welcome aboard

Tis a great read this thread, I have learned alot and also be inspired by it too

To contact Graeme, find one of his posts, at the end of his post you will see at button with PM on it, click that and message away

Brian

[auldreekie]

Many thanks, Mick B and Mercator II. No sooner said than done (fingers crossed).

auldreekie

[Atlantic 3279]

Hello AuldReekie and welcome.

Glad to hear of your interest in pacific conversions, and yes I can still help you out by supplying parts. I'll be back in touch with more details in a while - just a little busy at present.

[Atlantic 3279]

I'm still inching forward with the resin W1 project, despite my lack of progress reports. I've produced a resin frame for a bogie that could be used under the rear of the beast, between the frames. Here's one with brass axle tubes inserted and the deliberately created pockets in the bogie filled with lead shot to give it some weight. For the means I have in mind of attaching the bogie to the loco, and the live coupling too, those lowered tops of the end-stretchers are probably essential.

[S.A.C. Martin]

That looks really rather good Graeme. Will you spring the bogie or leave it on a double link pivot to the chassis?

[mick b]

Excellent very useful. I wonder if I can use one on my Wills Finecast version too

[Atlantic 3279]

At the moment Simon the plan is that the bogie will both be lightly sprung to carry a little body weight and steady the rear end of the loco as well as being on a double pivot link that extends beyond the bogie to carry the live drawbar. That should help to keep the drawbar above the middle of the track on curves, rather than perhaps following the lateral overthrow of the cab to the point where it might be too far out of line with the tender.

I won't be rationing supplies Mick so if you want one you're welcome.

[mick b]

I won't be rationing supplies Mick so if you want one you're welcome.[/quote]

I may need two as acquiring Hornby bits for a pre war version too !

[Atlantic 3279]

Apologies to Auldreekie if he is reading, for my failure to respond fully to his message about parts, but I will do so early tomorrow evening.

Playing about with an A4 body and some resin parts today has led to some developments that may be interesting to see. Firstly that A4 front apron that I had patently drilled outto just the right diameters and fitted up with sprung buffers, is now wearing primer and is fitted to what will be a W1 body without valances:

Once I'd cut the skirts away from my resin chunk for the rear end of the body, something had to be done to create the lower part of the firebox. I cut the lower firebox mouldings from the "scrap" A4 section that I'd cut off, and bonded these onto some thin backing pieces to make re-attachment to the W1 structure a bit easier. I also thought that photos suggested that exposed lower firebox should be longer and deeper on the W1, so before reattaching the pieces I built up the top edges with layers of plastic strip.

Here's a look under the rebuilt rear end, clarifying the business of what has been cut away, what has been retained, and what has been reinstated.

I've still got some way to go with the mould-making and casting process before I can produce more good examples of that rear frame unit, but I'm working on it.


And now, in the style of 1970s Sunday evening televison, here is an appeal, although not in this case seeking financial help for the needy:Has anybody seen a works photo of a fairly similar loco to the one below, but including a form of articulation with what was effectively a steam tender? I reckon the tender had coupled wheels the same size as those of the loco, inside frames, and the outside cylinders probablt tucked under the cab of the loco. I suspect it was a Yorkshire Engine Company (Sheffield) product, or may have come from one of the other private builders. I'm sure I saw such a picture many years ago and I'd be grateful if somebody could help me to prove that I didn't just imagine it.......

[60800]

Oh dear, here he goes again

[Horsetan]

Would that be a Sturrock steam tender-type thing

[Coboman]

The only British derived loco I can find with a powered tender is that designed by Archibald Sturrock. However I found a line drawing of a Spanish 0-6+6-0 (?) loco with inside frames and tender wheels the same size as those of the loco and the tender cylinders tucked under the cab, but visiable.
https://picasaweb.google.com/suzukikota ... 2190936002

[auldreekie]

May I suggest Lionel Wiener "Articulated Locomotives" as a source of data on virtually every wierd and wonderful bendy machine in existence by the time of its original publication (1930). It's fairly scarce and not a cheap acquisition these days unmless you're very lucky. The Golwe locomotive (a kind of Fairlie/Garratt halfbreed - yes, there's nothing new under the sun....), pages 162ff, looks closest to Atlantic's description, but it's more "la plume de ma tante" than "bah eck -- ee bah goom".

auldreekie

[earlswood nob]

Good morning all
A cold but sunny one here in the deep south.
I think I've seen this loco recently in a book. It may have been one of Oliver Nock's which I had from the library. I shall be visiting the library this morning and will have a look for the book.
Keep puffin'
Earlswood Nob

[auldreekie]

Further digging reveals, at page 74 of Tony Vernon's "Yorkshire Engine Company", a picture that may well be what Atlantic has in mind. It is an EC Poultney design for a 2-8-2+0-6-0, which (it is said) was never built, despite the convincing broadside photograph (good pre-digital artwork?). I doubt it would have been a lot of use in Lincolnshire, though, as it was for the 5ft 6ins gauge. Reference is further made to the March 1926 issue of Locomotive Magazine.

auldreekie