Daves C & W Works

[Dave]

Thanks Jonathan.
During my discussion on these with David on the NERA stand, we concluded that as they seemed to be painted engineers red in BR days (I have been told by 2 people they remember seeing them in red or maroon) they probably were engineers blue in LNER days. Which is why I'm building one as I thought another blue van would look nice with the 2 stores vans. As you say it's pure conjecture and not based on any known historical fact.

[JASd17]

Jonathan,

I wonder if colourisers (?) work better with later b/w film types? That is 1950s and 1960s rather than 1920s and 1930s.

I find the people who colourise b/w photos think they are doing everyone a favour, when in actual fact in most cases they are introducing errors, which many people will not find, including model manufacturers.

The Gresley Society have some of the worst examples in the GO.

John

[Dave]

Been very busy with life so not a lot of done on the model front.
Still the Pooleys van has had a coat of Halfords grey primer and the tiresome task of adding rivets,
The van sides have been part assembled, when the rivets are finished the 2 halves will be painted
blue, then glazing will be added and the van assembled.

[Chas Levin]

I find the people who colourise b/w photos think they are doing everyone a favour, when in actual fact in most cases they are introducing errors, which many people will not find, including model manufacturers.

John

I think you're right there, John. One of the problems with the Interweb is the way that things that are perhaps less historically accurate appear later in searches alongside material of a more scholarly nature: google doesn't distinguish in the way that we do. Not only that, but the captions - or excerpts of web pages that appear under photos on initial search results - frequently don't make the origin of the material clear, even if further reading clarifies.

Well, people probably said much the same thing when Johannes Guttenberg was talking up his new printing press in the pubs and bars of downtown Mainz in the 1450s: "people will just believe whatever he puts out", they probably said, "it's not like a handwritten manuscript that we know is true..."

[JASd17]

Chas, I wasn't there, but your point is well made!

John

[Dave S]

For historical accuracy I'll think you'll find it was Oliver Cromwell who said "don't believe everything you read on the internet"

[jwealleans]

An often repeated fallacy. In fact it was:

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[Chas Levin]

For historical accuracy I'll think you'll find it was Oliver Cromwell who said "don't believe everything you read on the internet"

An often repeated fallacy. In fact it was:

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Gents, excellent quotes both - can't make up my mind which I like more!

[Hatfield Shed]

I find the people who colourise b/w photos think they are doing everyone a favour, when in actual fact in most cases they are introducing errors, which many people will not find, including model manufacturers.

So long as the colourised image is clearly stated to be so (ideally with some reference to the method employed) there is no great problem. After all, no 'perfect' colour image is possible, because colour is an artefact finally of each individual's vision system, dependent on many external and not fully controllable factors. (As a 'divergent trichromat' I am regularly aware of this.)

[Dave S]

An often repeated fallacy. In fact it was:

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Only just seen this, I can confirm that it isn't a fallacy as I've seen the original etchings for Cromwells avatar.

[Dave]

Well very slow progress on the Pooleys van, I blame brexit and the shortage of skilled labour down at the works.
The imps are demanding payment.......disgraceful, next they will want food, back to victorian and tory values....

Still the body has been assembled, sprayed in white primer, windows glazed and bits of wire added.

Well while the workers struggle on I'm orf to the pub, I think I deserve a drink supervising them.

I hope to see the usual mob on Sunday for the last run on Ingelby before Dr Beeching closes the line, it will be a sad day.

[Atlantic 3279]

Ingleby facing Beeching? Only been open a short while hasn't it? Do explain for the uninformed peasants please.

[jwealleans]

That's really one for Scottiedog, but I'll do my best and he can correct me as and when he passes this way.

Ingleby has been built in leased premises. The lease is up for renewal and acceptable terms for that renewal have not been made available. Therefore the premises will need to be vacated.

The layout has been designed with this prospect in mind and will migrate back to Scottiedog Towers in its original end to end format.

[Atlantic 3279]

Less drastic than it might have been then. Good job he built-in a Plan B.

[swhite01]

Great modelling on the van Dave a real inspiration,
Steve