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[Saint Johnstoun]

I suggest everybody reading this topic should check their colour vision

a link is:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_perception_test

I've checked mine and it is perfect!

[2002EarlMarischal]

I suggest everybody reading this topic should check their colour vision

a link is:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_perception_test

I've checked mine and it is perfect!

Oops I failed! Will shut up about colour in future!

[Atlantic 3279]

Beware on-line colour vision tests, or any others that are used outside of strictly controlled conditions. Any variations in the reproduction of the presented colours, the relative brightness of the separate colours, and the kind of illumination used in the test environment can lead to spurious results. False defects can be produced or real defects not detected.

[2002EarlMarischal]

Beware on-line colour vision tests, or any others that are used outside of strictly controlled conditions. Any variations in the reproduction of the presented colours, the relative brightness of the separate colours, and the kind of illumination used in the test environment can lead to spurious results. False defects can be produced or real defects not detected.

Perhaps I won't own up to the wife yet then! She has accused me of having colour issues in the past!

[45609]

Perhaps I won't own up to the wife yet then! She has accused me of having colour issues in the past!

I had a very similar experience with my other half for many years until a routine eye test when I changed employment revealed a deuteranomaly in my colour vision. It was a bit of a surprise to find this out at the age of 30. As I recall this is the most common type of colour blindness and affects men far more often than it does women. I'm sure our resident optician will be able to give us the statistics.

Beware the deuternopes I hear they have plans for world domination....

[Saint Johnstoun]

Wise words from Atlantic. I am sure that 2002 may well have passed the test if done under controlled conditions as the colours on the on screen representations are a little bit 'iffy'.

[mick b]

Does that read 5ft 12 ????

[S.A.C. Martin]

Once weathered and sprayed over with Johnsons Klear, I think the full effect will be seen, as Mick states.

Happy to debate and be wrong, but I'm happier with a shade of blue which may be too light - and an be darkened through weathering - than start with a colour too dark which can't be lightened.

Hey - to be fair - at least I've started a healthy debate about colours and modelling and done some modelling in the process. Rather be wrong and had a go than to have done nowt at all.

[Tom F]

than start with a colour too dark which can't be lightened.
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I would say that Hornby's, once it's had been weathered (enamels and white spirit), plus Klear...certainly has a lightened quality which looks right to my eyes.

[2002EarlMarischal]

Tom I'm sure that a clever "Photoshoppy type" could put your A4 onto a real background and we would think it was a photo of the real full size version!

[Atlantic 3279]

deuteranomaly in my colour vision

Boring facts coming up (yes, that was FACTS, there was no R in the word):

Deuteranomaly, a weakness in red-green colour vision that reduces the reliability with which browns can be differentiaited from greens, and with which lilac can be differentiated from grey, is by far the most common form of inherited red-green colour vision defect. Hereditary red-green colour vision defects, according to the only statistic of which I am aware, are detectable in about 8% of the Western European male population, and are very much less common in women owing to their X-linked recessive inheritance pattern. Interestingly therefore, sons do not inherit deuteranomaly from their father, the maternal grandfather being the more likely source of a gene passed on to his daughter in whom its effect is not generally expressed, then passed in turn to her son. Deuteranopia is the extreme or absolute form of deuteranomaly in which the "difficult" colour differentiations that I mentioned are outright impossible for the deuteranope.
Protanomaly (and protanopia) form the other branch of the family of inherited red-green colour vision deficiencies. I believe the pattern of inheritance is again X-linked recessive, and these defects directly affect red-green differentiation, with protanopes having no ability at all to perceive a pure red light.

[Tom F]

Tom I'm sure that a clever "Photoshoppy type" could put your A4 onto a real background and we would think it was a photo of the real full size version!

You're too kind Jim, most kind.

[S.A.C. Martin]

than start with a colour too dark which can't be lightened.
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I would say that Hornby's, once it's had been weathered (enamels and white spirit), plus Klear...certainly has a lightened quality which looks right to my eyes.

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Tom, you know I consider your weathering in the highest regard - truly, I don't think anyone has weathered A4 Pacifics as well as you have anywhere, any time, including Tim Shackleton. So what I am about to say is not a reflection on your work.

I just don't find Hornby's shade of blue convincing at all, and particularly when we consider the very rare pre-war colour A4 photographs we have. Even if you factored in perhaps that the colour film wasn't up to showing the true colours of the time, you are asking me to compare this:

Herring Gull

Image is part of The late S Perrier / vintage-images.co.uk collection.

to your work and say I think the Hornby shade of blue matches, or could be a match for, that photograph? Even if you darkened the colours, or changed the contrast a tad in that colour photograph, there is no way in my view you could get Hornby's shade of blue to look anywhere near bright and light enough to match.



That's why I feel starting with a light blue, primarily, is better.

[S.A.C. Martin]

I've never seen a Tender with a Blue top , no logic due to dirt and the lines as the colour no longer flows between Cab Roof and Tender.

Yes that is something I need to address and will do so in due course. I keep forgetting to paint it as I tend to paint the whole tender body the one colour and then paint the black detail afterwards.

[2002EarlMarischal]

I have just "Google Imaged" the "Camp Coffee Sign" because I recollected it being a much redder colour than appears in the signs on the Herring Gull photo.

I think that the colour of that image has distorted over time. If the red is wrong then so to probably is the blue. I am sure there are those better qualified to comment on this.