Thanks John, I hadn't noticed those lurking in the deep holes! Agreed, much better!rowanj wrote: There are 2 screws under the tender chassis - a better solution, I think, than the slot/glue Mallard option. Allan may have a different view.
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To fit the GBLC FS tender body to the Hornby tender underframe you need to remove the two pillars inside the tender and create a bridge in .080 plasticard at the rear of the tender set at the right height just to clear the weight. Fit the body to the underframe and hold temporarily in place whilst drilling a hole up from underneath to take the long screw, which when inserted and tightened will hold the body in place. I still have to experiment on a way of holding the front down but I will report on this as soon as I am satisfied with my work.rowanj wrote:There are 2 screws under the tender chassis - a better solution, I think, than the slot/glue Mallard option. Allan may have a different view.2002EarlMarischal wrote:Allan, I was wondering how easily the tender body comes off the frames. The front fixing lug and twin rear tabs used on the Mallard tender don't seem to be present on this one.
I will copy your excellent solution with the weight.
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I couldn't actually see the fault in shape of the boiler for the tender-drive version either. It was only when I tried to incorporate the shortened boiler in a scale V2 body, for which it should have been equally suitable, that it became impossible to make it fit as it should.....rowanj wrote: can't spot the problem Graeme saw in the Boiler shape of the Hornby boiler
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Cheers Allan!Saint Johnstoun wrote: To fit the GBLC FS tender body to the Hornby tender underframe you need to remove the two pillars inside the tender and create a bridge in .080 plasticard at the rear of the tender set at the right height just to clear the weight. Fit the body to the underframe and hold temporarily in place whilst drilling a hole up from underneath to take the long screw, which when inserted and tightened will hold the body in place. I still have to experiment on a way of holding the front down but I will report on this as soon as I am satisfied with my work.
Having taken the tender apart now, I'm not sure the frames are as readily usable as those from the Mallard model due to the wheelset consisting of a single casting with a baseplate and no axle mountings.
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Here's how I have fixed the tender body to the Hornby chassis using two existing holes in the chassis accessible underneath.
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Very helpful stuff thanks!
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The GBLC 1928 corridor tender is a better job I think than the Mallard one - am currently sorting the handrails - the corridor connection at the back comes off with care. It's also a better representation than the earlier Hornby and Railroad versions, so I think if I can get hold of another couple of FS the tender bodies will be modified and put into 'stock'!
As for the loco I notice that the 'cone' on the boiler in photos of the real thing looks more pronounced than on the Hornby Model but not as pronounced as on the GBLC one. Comments??
As for the loco I notice that the 'cone' on the boiler in photos of the real thing looks more pronounced than on the Hornby Model but not as pronounced as on the GBLC one. Comments??
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Progress on what will become two green A4s. One with black smokebox, the other with parabolic curve. One has a GBLC 1928 tender body with proper handrails added, the other a streamlined corridor tender body which was damaged but repaired now. Ready for cleaning and preparing for the paint shop. I've yet to decide identities. I am undecided as to whether the tender bodies need further work with regard to the fairings on the top - I think they had these when new but how long did they last?
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Boiler is hollow:Atlantic 3279 wrote:Is the boiler solid or is it sealed but hollow moulding?S.A.C. Martin wrote:the boiler and running plate are solid lumps
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They are looking terrific. I have ordered handrails from Nairnshire, used the small ones on the tender and cabsides - what type did you use on the locomotive for the body's handrails?Saint Johnstoun wrote:Progress on what will become two green A4s. One with black smokebox, the other with parabolic curve. One has a GBLC 1928 tender body with proper handrails added, the other a streamlined corridor tender body which was damaged but repaired now. Ready for cleaning and preparing for the paint shop. I've yet to decide identities. I am undecided as to whether the tender bodies need further work with regard to the fairings on the top - I think they had these when new but how long did they last?
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nice to see that the 1936 tender can get scrubbed up
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I used short handrail knobs all round - they seem to be right? The W1 and V2 are also now ready for the paintshop. I'm off on a mission tomorrow morning to locate another couple of FS so that I have a further supply of 1928 Corridor Tenders for future projects - I have an original W1 in sight plus Seagull as in the 1948 exchanges. One has to remove the corridor connection to remove the plastic handrail and replace with brass one so I can do the cutting down of the tender back at the same time.
I reckon from current costings that I am getting a customised model for just under £50 provided that I have been able to get a Hornby chassis at a good price.
I reckon from current costings that I am getting a customised model for just under £50 provided that I have been able to get a Hornby chassis at a good price.
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If you mean the fairing around the water filler ? not long , not sure if the non Grey tenders ever had them either ?. As to handrail knobs I always use medium on boilers as do Hornby (they even use them on the cabs as well).Saint Johnstoun wrote:[attachment=1]A4 conversions 4.jp I am undecided as to whether the tender bodies need further work with regard to the fairings on the top - I think they had these when new but how long did they last?
In case you dont know Modelmaster now do a Parabollic curve on a BR lining sheet for the A4 its white black white so you would need to remove one white line. I used it my recent build without problem.
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In which case, presumably not immensely difficult to cut out space for a motor, gearbox and any other chassis-top lumps if one would really like to motorise the GBL FS body.S.A.C. Martin wrote:
the boiler and running plate are solid lumps
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Is the boiler solid or is it sealed but hollow moulding?
S.A.C. Martin wrote:
Boiler is hollow:
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Thanks Mick - I'll get some parabolic curves from Modelmaster when Jim Grindlay bothers to return my phone call of the other week!