Whitby, Scarborough and Boulby

[seacoaler]

Away from Potash for a minute , found some nice new to me pics of 1950s Sandsend

http://www.wonderfulwhitby.co.uk/wonder ... itby-uk-2/

[PinzaC55]

I never knew DMU's went through Sandsend?

[mr B]

not sure if they did the line to Loftus or beyond, but Whitby Town to Sandsend was a regular 'crew' training run for the then new DMU's.

mr B

[PinzaC55]

Sirius have dropped the pipeline in favour of an underground conveyor belt. Maybe one day they will see sense and take it out by train?
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/business/new ... ns/?ref=la

[mr B]

but would'nt this still involve a pipe/tunnel or whatever ?


mr B

[PinzaC55]

According to the article "The MTS will consist of a series of linked conveyors running at around 120 to 360 metres underground." implies a very large tunnel.
With the new NYMR platform at Whitby you'd have thought the temptation to provide a fully signalled layout incorporating the new platform and the potash traffic plus double track to Grosmont would have been strong, but my trouble is I always think of the obvious

[Bryan]

The use of the conveyor would be an extension of the present system for material shift from digging face to shaft bottom.
If the equipment is there already and they have the exploration permissions.
A tunnel dug towards Teeside may produce some more material on route.
Not sure what the existing mine company would have to say about that though as it could be seen as blocking their potential sources.

[richard]

...and 360 metres is pretty short when compared to the scale of the existing underground system at Boulby.

[PinzaC55]

...and 360 metres is pretty short when compared to the scale of the existing underground system at Boulby.

No, they mean 360 metres DEEP. All the way to Middlesbrough
When you consider that the tunnel would presumably need sufficient space either side for maintenance it is mind boggling; it almost sounds like a joke.

[mr B]

mmm , underground conveyer , heading north via Boulby , then arriving at Teesport , now reading between the lines here are we picking up deposits from Boulby and transporting , thus ending the Carin How-Boulby link , after all theres not much use for rail to Skinningrove Iron Works .
Another line to be ripped out ?



mr B

[Bryan]

...and 360 metres is pretty short when compared to the scale of the existing underground system at Boulby.

No, they mean 360 metres DEEP. All the way to Middlesbrough
When you consider that the tunnel would presumably need sufficient space either side for maintenance it is mind boggling; it almost sounds like a joke.

I went down Boulby last year.
As part of our tour we were at a max 15km offshore and nearly 1200m deep
The underground permanent tunnels are approx 5m high and can accomodate 2 way traffic of road vehicles. Ex BT Transit pickups in the main. Vehicle size limited by the capacity of the freight / ore lifts.
They are renewing the main shaft heads and increasing capacity so larger vehicles may be possible in future.
The conveyor tunnel would only need a maintenance gap to one side of a metre or so and a vehicle width the other side for access. Easily fit within the normal tunnel size.

[PinzaC55]

...and 360 metres is pretty short when compared to the scale of the existing underground system at Boulby.

No, they mean 360 metres DEEP. All the way to Middlesbrough
When you consider that the tunnel would presumably need sufficient space either side for maintenance it is mind boggling; it almost sounds like a joke.

I went down Boulby last year.
As part of our tour we were at a max 15km offshore and nearly 1200m deep
The underground permanent tunnels are approx 5m high and can accomodate 2 way traffic of road vehicles. Ex BT Transit pickups in the main. Vehicle size limited by the capacity of the freight / ore lifts.
They are renewing the main shaft heads and increasing capacity so larger vehicles may be possible in future.
The conveyor tunnel would only need a maintenance gap to one side of a metre or so and a vehicle width the other side for access. Easily fit within the normal tunnel size.

So they would effectively be building a dual lane road tunnel all the way from Hawsker to Middlesbrough? Wow.

[james b]

While staying at a B&B at Easington e/York's
During the morning I took this photo from our bedroom window , I notice a main line diesel ,pulling some large goods train .

Would it be going to Boulby ??

Jim

[PinzaC55]

While staying at a B&B at Easington e/York's
During the morning I took this photo from our bedroom window , I notice a main line diesel ,pulling some large goods train .

Would it be going to Boulby ??

Jim

Yes, through Grinkle tunnel past the site of Grinkle station, originally called Easington but later renamed when Easington station in County Durham was opened. http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/g/gr ... ndex.shtml

[seacoaler]

mmm , underground conveyer , heading north via Boulby , then arriving at Teesport , now reading between the lines here are we picking up deposits from Boulby and transporting , thus ending the Carin How-Boulby link , after all theres not much use for rail to Skinningrove Iron Works .
Another line to be ripped out ?



mr B

Sirius are deadly competitors to the Boulby Mine so I doubt they will be sharing tunnels !