That's a nice model you have there.
Is the backdrop Grantham?
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Yes Mel,it is the main building on the up side.I'm pleased with it;gave it my best shot anyway.I made the windows with humbrol 103 matt cream in a bow pen,the curved ones in a bow pen compass.Took me some time,but pleasing of course.It's probably not dead right,but captures the essence I think.
Roy.
Another view of J6,in the up main platform,my model of Grantham footbridge recently finished.I've yet to have a go at the canopies...the bridge has took me b....y ages!
Roy
ROY@34F wrote:Re.Clem'sJ6 a few posts back;and thanks to my good friend John's re-sizing...here is my effort .Built some years ago,a connoiseur kit,Sharman wheels, axles equalised,(front one pivots on central wire)Portescap on rear axle using modified hornguide bushes to locate in gearbox sides.Just enough room for this in 00 gauge.The motor is vertical,with the gearbox extending just above rail level.The boiler is crammed with lead where possible giving very good grip/hauling power.I think the steel wheels help in this respect.
The fireman bobs about a bit,as he's stuck to the fall plate!
Hope you like it gents.
Roy.
ROY@34F wrote:Another view of J6,in the up main platform,my model of Grantham footbridge recently finished.I've yet to have a go at the canopies...the bridge has took me b....y ages!
Roy
Hi Roy,
It was well worth the wait while you resized the photos. Brilliant modelling. I always feel that the most important thing to get in a model is atmosphere and this overflows with it. Is it SMP track? The London Road Models kit does come up better than the Nucast - I have something to look forward to there when I get the chance to tackle the kits I have in stock. 64246 was a Grantham engine in the late 50's having been transferred up from New England. Although I lost the records of what J6s I saw, enough mags and other books survived that had casual underlinings to know that it was one that I definitely saw.
Both my J6 models are compensated too - it gives better current pickup as all wheels are touch the rail all of the time. I mainly use High-Level gearboxes, Mashima motors and either Gibson or Ultrascale wheels as a rule but 64215, like yours, has a Portescap in its P4 chassis, but will probably have a Mashima in its replacement EM chassis. I like the selection of goods vehicles behind the engine too. Very prototypical! You'll have to keep us all updated on progress. Modelling to such a standard is a great way to nudge the memoriesI
60129 GUY MANNERING wrote:Both the Footbridge and the Station Buildings are superb Roy.The work that's gone into the bridge is incredible.Great Models.
Regards,Derek.
Thanks for the kind comments gents.Yes it is SMP track,with copper clad soldered points.I also use High level/Mashima nowadays;very good.The portescaps were excellent in their day,but do whine a bit now.
I remember 64246,and I think we had '4227 &maybe '4242 ? & '4178 ? around 1957/58.
Roy.
ROY@34F wrote:Another view of J6,in the up main platform,my model of Grantham footbridge recently finished.I've yet to have a go at the canopies...the bridge has took me b....y ages!
Roy
Oh wow! After all your kind comments on my interpretation of the place in OO and all the time you were hiding this fantastic work! Very interesting actually as I'm just putting together a few mock-ups of the station buildings (including footbridge) in time for Barrow Hill, but will be some time (if ever!) that I get them to this standard.
You should start a thread in the models section as not everyone will necessarily look in this part of the forum.
I've managed at last, after an hour trying,to load another picture.You would'nt believe it.I'm so bl...y thick with this modern technology , give me steam power anyday ! However here's my C12,another Grantham engine in '57/58/59 perhaps. I had my very first fireing job on '7352 on coach shunt,So had to make a model of it.It's a Craftsman brass kit.Originally in EM during a brief foray into it,but I changed back to 00 so as to get going a bit quicker (this was early 70s) .
So I rebuilt the chassis with Gibson frames , Keen Maygib wheels,Portescap 16/16 gearbox/motor.The 2 rear axles are equalised,and there are pick ups on all wheels. Runs very well .
Hope you like it gents.
Roy.
With my new-found success , I'll try another picture .
Yet another Grantham engine of this popular period , I spent a lot of time on '1392 it seems in my '63 diary . It's a Replica body on kit chassis as , possibly Comet , but not sure . The Replica one failed with broken axle(the old split axle type). I used the Replica cyls. as the Comet ones at the time were too long . Comet valve gear ; note it's in forward gear , the valve rod moves about a mm. or so ...something I like to do , and enjoy the challenge . That's part of what it's all about , I feel , so much gain , after pain , so to speak . Mashima 1620 m0tor with London Road Models gearbox . I think the driving wheels are Gibson drivers are Gibson . Runs well , but won't pull long trains , a bit light on her feet .
Roy.
ROY@34F wrote:Thanks for the kind comments gents.Yes it is SMP track,with copper clad soldered points.I also use High level/Mashima nowadays;very good.The portescaps were excellent in their day,but do whine a bit now.
I remember 64246,and I think we had '4227 &maybe '4242 ? & '4178 ? around 1957/58.
Roy.
Hi Roy,
The more I see your modelling, the more I like it! I too have a Craftsman kit for a C12. Not sure when I'll get round to doing though My railway is at a far earlier stage than your's. I've almost finished the laying of the trackwork on the visible layout but still have to the last section into the fiddle yard. I hope to get started on the the scenery later this year. It will be a ficticious station based on Kimberley on the Nottingham-Derby line. At the moment, my layout resembles a building site! Having seen pictures of your layout, I do regret a little now not choosing an actual location as you've done - but I'm too far on to change now.
I thought I'd share this picture of one of the Grantham J6s you mentioned, 64178 (sorry about the low quality picture- it's scanned in from Jan 58 Trains Illustrated) on the 5.35pm Grantham-Derby Friargate passing the Hall siding West of Colwick and Netherfield on June 13th 1957. This train carried through coaches from Kings Cross (last three coaches). I'd be interested to know, on a daily basis, how many of the Grantham-Derby trains were Grantham diagrams. At the site of this photo, the railway is now a road and all you see in the photo has gone. But behind the coaches, the platform used for loading and unloading horses for Nottingham Racecourse still exists to this day at the side of the road.
I hope you continue to share pictures of your layout.Very inspirational!
Roy,
as LNER4479 said [ Quote:- You should start a thread in the models section as not everyone will necessarily look in this part of the forum. Quote ]
I really do think a new thread would be very much appreciated, I for one would be an avid follower, your buildings are of a fantastic standard and capture our local station in 1950/1960 style to perfection.
Kind Regards, Derek.
Derek & "Robert",
I'm sure you're both perhaps right , and I'm very flattered by your comments . But the photos I've posted are what someone has kindly resized for me , because I simply can't do , no matter how I try . What good would a thread be if I can't show you pictures . You have already seen the best bits anyway , and there is years of work there . What "Robert" does in a short time is amazing and captures the overall picture so well . So I feel the work of both of us is good , but in different ways .
I do often comment on one or two threads relating to things I've done if I think it appropriate and it might help the discussion , as I do on this one , but I don't think I'm up to committing a lot to a thread of my own .
About what Clem says about modelling a specific location , well I like to think mine is based on Grantham , and some aspects and buildings resemble it but I have'nt the room to do it justice . This is where "Robert's" vision and skill stands out .
So I will continue to butt in occasionally on other folks threads hopefully .
Kind regards , Roy .
ROY@34F wrote:Derek & "Robert",
I'm sure you're both perhaps right , and I'm very flattered by your comments . But the photos I've posted are what someone has kindly resized for me , because I simply can't do , no matter how I try . What good would a thread be if I can't show you pictures . You have already seen the best bits anyway , and there is years of work there . What "Robert" does in a short time is amazing and captures the overall picture so well . So I feel the work of both of us is good , but in different ways .
I do often comment on one or two threads relating to things I've done if I think it appropriate and it might help the discussion , as I do on this one , but I don't think I'm up to committing a lot to a thread of my own .
About what Clem says about modelling a specific location , well I like to think mine is based on Grantham , and some aspects and buildings resemble it but I have'nt the room to do it justice . This is where "Robert's" vision and skill stands out .
So I will continue to butt in occasionally on other folks threads hopefully .
Kind regards , Roy .
You're too modest, Roy! But I understand what you mean. Starting your own thread on your model does put pressure on, particularly if you're a one-man band like each of us. One could take the view that these posts would be more at home in the modelling section but the relevance to Grantham and its locos is very strong and more than justifies its presence here. The models of 64246, 67352 and 61392 remind us of the Grantham engines that many of us knew. The pictures of your models, the wonderful photos placed on here by 61070 and others all help us to remember and paint our own pictures from our memories. This thread was started and continued to the benefit of all of us by 61070 and it's not my place to say what should or should not appear on this thread but in my opinion, your layout photos certainly add to pleasure!
A final thought.... Perhaps a thread in the Models section might serve a few of us like minded modellers in the future, as we are modelling locations (or in my case based on a location) that have many common attributes. In that way, the pressure is shared.
