GNR locos north of York in LNER days

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Re: GNR locos north of York in LNER days

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One of the major problems I think we all have is the lack of WTT's and even post working reports that went through to the traffic department to allocate costs.

Certainly post Grouping, then later post Nationalisation, locos were tried out in the strangest areas.
When Gresley took over, he tried the locos he knew in many different areas to see whether they might be better, but of course he also moved others around to try and meet the demands of the traffic departments.

Is it possible to say that a J6 did not work north of York on some occasion, NO, there would have been occasions when a loco was on a shed say overnight, and was rostered on an unusual turn.

photographic evidence is all you can actually rely on, or what I call "wet wednesday in Wigan".

if you like the LRM J6, designed by Malcolm Crawley, then run one on a special, or a sunday working, who can tell you it is wrong?

To further muddy the waters, the GNR sold locos to the L&Y in the 1870's, sent some 2-4-0's to work on the South East and Chatham, as well as selling two N1's to the MOD for use in the First World War.

Regular usage maybe not, but one off, who is to say without proper documentation?

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Evening all
This database has thrown up some shocks. Quite a number of Southern areas at Newcastle.
http://www.nelpg.org.uk/index.php?optio ... &Itemid=14
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2750 wrote:Evening all
This database has thrown up some shocks. Quite a number of Southern areas at Newcastle.
http://www.nelpg.org.uk/index.php?optio ... &Itemid=14
Wow - that is interesting. Worth some more study. I like the A7 on a Local Passenger Train in 1938. Must check the Green book.

What was a C3 though?
I thought that classification was left spare.
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drmditch wrote:
2750 wrote:Evening all
This database has thrown up some shocks. Quite a number of Southern areas at Newcastle.
http://www.nelpg.org.uk/index.php?optio ... &Itemid=14
Wow - that is interesting. Worth some more study. I like the A7 on a Local Passenger Train in 1938. Must check the Green book.

What was a C3 though?
I thought that classification was left spare.

Isn't it just. I'm ignoring the 1940 dates as that's war time. The thing that's amazed me is numerous C1s on Newcastle turns (mostly Grantham allocations). Even an O4 at one point.
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I suspect C3 is a typo or misreading for C5.
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Re: GNR locos north of York in LNER days

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2750 wrote:
drmditch wrote:
2750 wrote:Evening all
This database has thrown up some shocks. Quite a number of Southern areas at Newcastle.
http://www.nelpg.org.uk/index.php?optio ... &Itemid=14
Wow - that is interesting. Worth some more study. I like the A7 on a Local Passenger Train in 1938. Must check the Green book.

What was a C3 though?
I thought that classification was left spare.

Isn't it just. I'm ignoring the 1940 dates as that's war time. The thing that's amazed me is numerous C1s on Newcastle turns (mostly Grantham allocations). Even an O4 at one point.
An A7 was tried on the more steeper gradients in County Durham. One route was the Newcastle-Blackhill-Birtley-Newcastle circuit. I believe that it was 1179 but the Green books will confirm this.

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