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Re: Atlantic's works inc. RTRconversions. A Hornby Howlden c

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Atlantic 3279 wrote:I can't believe that I still missed three typos in that previous post, even after deliberately proof-reading it TWICE ....
Should've gone to SpecSavers :?:
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You know how to wound....
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jwealleans wrote:You know how to wound....
Some people do walk into it, though.
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Horsetan wrote:Should've gone to SpecSavers :?:
I realise the error of my ways. I simply cannot account for my actions.


Sufficient of this witty banter for the time being. There's information to add. Both sides of the clerestory roof are now basically complete, save for filling, and both ends fit as hoped. As a picture that should appear somewhere below may illustrate, 3-part LNER roof board brackets appear to have been fitted to at least some of these vehicles by the 30s, so I may add a representation of those before duplicating the roof. It strikes me as easier to clean off unwanted ones than to make then add a necessary set. I must remember to add the "noggins" for the alarm gear on one end too. The same image shows the coach that I spotted as justification for inset brake ends on a Howlden vehicle. Tiring bed-time book browsing has now also revealed another useful fact that may allow me to produce two brake-end vehicles (I have the spare bodies) in different styles, the second one being possible using a lazy modellers approach. Doncaster partly rebuilt some thirds in 1906, retaining the clerestory roof, but introducing a brake portion with the early rounded style of Gresley shallow guards ducket. Although the otherwise unaltered Hornby body would still be a bit wide of scale "gauge", one could probably just about get away with a set of these duckets in lieu of the angular Hornby originals, without causing too many collisions with other stock, lineside structures, or adventurous passengers' heads.
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In answer to a question by e-mail, I haven't the faintest idea yet of which duties my clerestory coach(es) will be rostered to. They may just loiter as spares / scrappers in a siding for all I know.

Good news on the A2/3 cab casting too. I produced an almost perfect piece from the first use of the mould, thanks I believe to new method of introducing the resin quickly through the feed hole, with the mould sitting at a suitable angle to avoid having any horizontal air-trap ledges. The trick was to inject the resin from a syringe rather than rely on gravity. "But how do you clean out the syringe?" I hear you cry. No problem, just draw some cellulose thinners into and out of it a few times and the uncured resin is washed away cleanly. It looiks like it would help to have just one extra breather hole in the mould and to slightly alter the angle at which it sits during injection, but I'm delighted with the speed and effectiveness of the injection method. I didn't bother "buttering" any of the details with resin prior to the injection, yet nothing of significance appears to have retained an air bubble. More pictures later perhaps.
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Atlantic 3279 wrote:In answer to a question by e-mail, I haven't the faintest idea yet of which duties my clerstory coach(es) will be rostered to. They may just loiter as spares / scrappers in a siding for all I know.
They're unlikely to be found 'loitering' if they come anywhere near Grantham, 3279. The odd clerestory vehicle could still be found in 1930's ECML formations, quite often in through portions. And we're a touch short of brake ends at the moment...
(recreating pre-war Grantham in model form http://www.lner.info/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9076.
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Well done with the cab mouliding. That is a serious number of vents on that carriage roof :shock:
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I've missed a lot of stellar modelling the last few months. No latex moulds here then…! :oops:

Good to see your modelling Graeme, cheers a weary heart.
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Hello Simon!

No time, energy or real need for much typing with these pictures. Most of the work going on is as previously described: Filing to fit and to level joints, filling, rubbing down,building up the shoulders of the ends, detaching the roof ready for duplication in resin, first application of primer and rough test assembly of coach thrown onto some Bachmann bogies. A couple of pictures of the photographically challenging pale resin A2/3 cab are here too.

No more work on the coach until after the weekend now. Tomorrow night I need to be cleaning wheels, checking couplings, lubricating where necessary and organising locos for safe carriage to the NEC.

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Plastic strips added and filed to shape on shoulders.
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Marked up for filling.
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From photoshop to an actual model in a matter of a couple weeks! :o
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Great work as usual Graeme

Did any of them survive into BR days do you know? I have a plan forming in my head that might see me buying some of them from you al a later date, if I ever clear the back log of other projects currently sat on the 'to do' pile (think my retirement pile is started now even tho its 30+ years away!!!)

Any chance of one showing up at Warley to have a look at?

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If I can deflate the coach sufficiently to squeeze it into my bag I'll bring it to the NEC. Maybe I need one of those vacuum bags for compressed packing?


Picking up that earlier point about Grantham's shortage of Brake-end vehicles, I think that was a chronic problem on the real LNER too, possible helping some of the clerstories to survive and accounting for bizarre examples in photos such as an ex GC London-extension-stock brake end vehicle behind an A4 on a GN main-line train post-war. This of course would be after the "pooling" of LNER passenger stock to an all-line-control system.

Including two clerestory examples if they clear works in time, I should be able to turn out at least 5 teak brake-end vehicles, a teak-finished Barnum brake-end plus a clerestory full-brake for the gangwayed trains, so some thought about couplings on those will be in order.
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Evenin' all
Don't count on it Mercator! When you retire the roundtuit pile gets bigger and bigger.
You start thinking that you have plenty of time, to do this and do that, so you promise yourself to do so many more things.
I am enjoying my retirement, but I'm so busy, but busy doing things that I want to do.
Start now and you might get some projects finished before you retire.
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[quote]"....before you retire."[quote]

Or afterwards (!)

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After failing with my own videoing efforts yesterday at Warley, I was pleased to find the attached You Tube footage.

There are glimpses of a certain Atlantic 3279 as well as City of Lincoln and 2393 in action on Gresley Beat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBA7upkw6AQ
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Nice video, is the P1 yours ? Working very well.
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