Hi Eddie61962 wrote:greenglade,I have used modellers license on one detail for this tender.. I wonder if anyone picks it up?
I've sat and studied the picture of your 5" tender and have really struggled to find your modellers license, but apart from the fact it isn't finished and some details are yet to be added, my only criticism is that you have used Durbar type plate for the footsteps. Doncaster certainly didn't use this material and put in neat rows of small rivets I think or spots of weld to provide grip on footsteps and some areas of the footplate of the locos, notably by the cabside on the A4s. Nor have you made provision for safety links, but that has to come into the category of nit picking! Have you put in the tender well tank and the water pick-up gear? The doors are spot on by the way.
It's very easy to find fault if you look hard enough, but I have to say your workmanship looks to be of a high order and your interpretation of the details of the LNER tender is excellent.
For Great Northern, you say you are building it as first re-built, but you have put on the full depth cab sides. The engine was put into traffic in September 1945 with the cab mounted on the boiler and it had short sides. It proved unpopular with the crews, so when it was returned to works in December for the smoke deflectors to be fitted the cab was altered to the familiar frame mounting, so your model will have to have the blinkers to be right.
If you PM me I can give you an extract from the boiler drawing that will locate the firebox top hand holes and some other information extracted from original works drawings which I cannot post here.
Eddie
Thanks for the kind words
I wasn't aware of the tread plate issue, I had tried to find something that matched photo's of other Gresley loco's A1,3,and 4's, if you or anyone else have a picture for a Doncaster tread pattern I'd be most grateful and will update my model, I like the idea of rows of rivets, easy to do too. Safety links? not sure I know what your referring too but very willing to include them on the model, as I said I have a long way to go yet, I also have no vac pipes yet, lots of detail to add to the front bulkhead, still have the locking plates and nuts to fit below the dampers, the list goes on. The tender does indeed have it's well tank and the feeds for the two injectors are taken from there which of course means the water valves are fully working, as is the water gauge. She has fully working vacuum brakes which also includes the vac connection for the train behind, along with it's resevoir tested too over 100psi. Naturally the handbrake is incorporated within the braking system and she has fully functional oil trays fitted into her axleboxes. The water scoop is not included for no other reason than safety, this loco will be capable of pulling more than 20 people and it's not worth the risk of a derailment especially if on a raised track at the time.
I'm probably being a little unfair expecting someone to notice where I'm using modellers licence as you'd have to know 4472 very well, Flying Scotsman didn't have this type of tender during her career , well yes it was similar but not for some of the fine details that I have included. My model represents her during the late 30's when she had a Streamlined high sided tender which means the tender didn't have any beading, I wanted the beading as it matches the cab and looks a lot better, also the side sheets curving in at the front again to match the cab. Other than that the tender is correct, well except now for the tread plate..
I should have said I'm building 4470 as she was in December 45, as I mentioned this was a part built model that i acquired and so I have to fit in with the work already done, which included part of the cab, this too has a long way to go for completion.
I'd love to have more info Eddie for which I'm most grateful.. I'll send a PM, probably in the morning now as SWMBO has just pointed out the time to me...lol
cheers
Pete
but how do you move it, barrow, trolly, couple of strong friends !!!
