Daves C & W Works

[Dave]

Thanks Mick & Blackout for the chimny info, I will try DMR I think.

Mick a lovely little model you have there, I must see if I can get the castings...or it will be back in the box again. As it is it was going to a slow job as I've got several kits on order from Dan, which when they fall into my little hands will take priority.

[Dave]

Well after posting those old pics of the D10C & D113 I knew I could not resist much more and I did title this as C & W (wagon) and it has been a bit one sided, so on Sunday I had a bit of spare time after finishing rotovating the extended estate...what could I do ?.
I got this Cambrian wagon the other day at Scalefour North, just the thing, a nice quick one.

Then last night a couple of pairs of MJT wagon thingies.

I'm taking the carriage tables and chairs to the hosp on Friday and whilst waiting for the boss to have her treatment I hope to set them on a floor plate.

[Manxman1831]

Hope all goes well on Friday. The modelling will provoke some interest no doubt whilst you are waiting.

[Bill Bedford]

How quaint -- someone still using rocking w-irons………..

[Dave]

Thanks Mansxman, it keeps the nurses amused, amazing how many modellers you meet.

Yes Bill, but I have lots and lots of them in the box still to make, and the ones for RTR wagons too, don't tell me there is another method...............

[Bill Bedford]

Well, that what happens when people hoard kits and bits. Manufacturing moves on and they find themselves using less accurate/harder to use stuff or having to buy new replacements.
Sprung w-irons have only been around about 10 years………..

[Manxman1831]

Dave, this method obviously works for you, and you have a substantial stockpile built up for your own needs, so the question is 'why change and how expensive would it be to replace the lot for the sprung variety?'.

[jwealleans]

I use the MJT units and Bill's spring ones interchangeably and there's very little practical difference. I am in 'OO', though. In the finer scales there might be an improvement in the visible motion of a vehicle when the suspension is active but fundamentally as long as it stays on the track most people will be happy.

On Corfe, much of the stock is over 30 years old and uses the (then) standard EMGS method of rigid W irons on the end of a springy bit of wire, secured in the middle of a 4 wheel vehicle. It looks awful from underneath but it still works and until it falls to bits will continue to do so.

One practical advantage of Bill's units is that they will fit into a smaller gap between solebars as you don't need to leave clearance for them to rock.

[Dave]

I agree Bill, things do move on, the first sprung chasis I built was my first brass kit (I think way back in 1995) a Dave Bradwell LNER hopper chasis kit, I got another one last year at Scalefour, (and some Parkside hopper bodies this year to try with it). I don't mine which method I use as long as they stay on the track. In this case I thought the Cambrian mouldings were a bit thick, so into the box, I nearly built them solid but thought what the hell (my trackwork will be dead level). For the brake gear ABS or Masokits.....that is the question, working?.

I do admit to being a bit of a hoarder but only of bits I like, I take stock every so often and get rid of items that don't come upto standard, ebay is good at that.

Mind you I did leave the hobby for over 10 years to follow my interest in Panzers, I only got back into this side around 2 years ago, and I'm still trying to get my head around DCC, XTC, etc, and all the other things that have happened in the mean time.

[mick b]

Well, that what happens when people hoard kits and bits. Manufacturing moves on and they find themselves using less accurate/harder to use stuff or having to buy new replacements.
Sprung w-irons have only been around about 10 years………..

Well you can always give them away

[notascoobie]

Good afternoon,

There is a large variety of different shaped W-irons available through the trade, both sprung and rocking. It might well be easier to use a sprung set, but only if the type you need is available sprung. If, like me you model the Inverkeithing and Bognor Regis Overhead Tramway, you will find it's not always easy to get exactly the right type.

I use sprung and rocking irons in EM Gauge from 1980s EMGS rockers to more modern sprung ones. I prefer BB units and actively dislike Ex***osc*** ones. However, when using rockers, unless the prototype had a long wheelbase, I tend to mount the rocking part on a piece of suitable width plasticard so both axles are fixed, discarding the etched rocking base. Weird or what? Guilty as charged M'lud.

Actually, my theory is that if you are pushing a heavy rake of wagons through facing pointwork, the force acting on a single buffer increases through the train's length until it will reach a point where an axle is encouraged to rock, leading to buffer locking and derailments. I accept that's unlikely with 6 wagons on a shunting plank, but if you scale it up to a proper train and ..... I might be spouting rubbish of course, I usually do.

If what you're doing works for you, stick with it.

Regards,

Vernon

[Dave]

Vernon, amazing a fellow modeller of the Inverkeithing & Bognor Regis Overhead Tramway! I thought I was the only one. My model is of the underwater section.

[manna]

G'Day Gents

Dave, how do you solder the rail connections, under water, do you have to wait for the water to heat up, my soldering iron always buzz's and it make's my fingers tingle when I try.

stumped of Booborowie

[Dave]

Ha Manna, it's tidal.......

[notascoobie]

Vernon, amazing a fellow modeller of the Inverkeithing & Bognor Regis Overhead Tramway! I thought I was the only one. My model is of the underwater section.

Dave, you're probably aware that there's quite a lot of controversy about the underwater section. It wasn't too well surveyed and so nobody knows where it crosses the border. Accordingly, come Scottish independence we don't know the exact location where jurisdiction changes.

It's interesting modelling the lesser known lines.