Union Mills Q2

smudger · Post by **smudger** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:12 am

I've seen pictures of this and the tender looks like a group standard 3500 gallon tender. Can anyone confirm if I am correct?

In every photo of I've seen of a Long-Tom they have always had Great Northern tenders. I can guess that the tender was chosen to fit the motor, but does anyone know if this arrangement has any basis in prototype beyond just the possible?

Alan

wehf100 · Post by **wehf100** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:27 pm

can't give a definitive answer, but I share your concern as I've never seen one running a group standard tender. (and that includes in the relevant Yeadons register)

What really makes me doubt it is the mid 30's withdrawal date for the class- why would they fit new tenders to an old design? Indeed, LNER policy seemed to be quite the reverse, with a lot of new and rebuilt engines been fitted with Pre-group era tenders to save money; the D49s and associated Robinson tenders spring to mind for instance.

Isinglass models sell the drawings so it would be a cool project to fit a GNR tender!

Will

Post by **richard** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:07 pm

Union Models do tend to use Group Standard (or similar for the other railways) with many of their models. It has the size, is an off-the-shelf design for them, and was fitted to most of the models they have produced.

There is another mistake with the Q2: None of them survived to receive a BR livery!

Richard

Atso · Post by **Atso** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:22 pm

I've changed my tender for an approximation of a GNR pattern tender using a cut down A3 tender body on a V2 tender frame (both available as spares from Graham Farish). I've not got a pic of my Q2 to hand but attached a pic of my J6 which using a tender made from the same components - its not quite right but a lot closer than the group standard tender used.

silver fox · Post by **silver fox** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:36 pm

On the subject of Union Mills, they have a (small) advert in Railway Modler on page 43A

the LNER are
J11 LNER or BR Black 59.00
J38 LNER Black 59.00
J25 LNER or BR Black 69.00
Q2 LNER or BR Black 72.00

Post by **richard** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:49 pm

Must be the new one - the latest issue doesn't have an ad from them (they don't advertise in all issues).

Looks like he's re-running a number of older models. We had the B12/3 and D20 last year, now these.

Richard

silver fox · Post by **silver fox** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:04 pm

it's aprils with e making a start in n gauge