Mystery Loco - Alnwick 1881 - 1900

[bgrey62253]

I've just found this photo of my great grandfather. He was a passenger guard at Alnwick from 1881 - 1907.

I'm sure the location is Alnwick. BUT the mystery is the loco.

You can make out the number 75 on the builders plate and T2 underneath that. I've searched on the internet and can't find any reference to this type of loco. Any ideas would be welcome.

Brian Grey

[Bill Bedford]

The loco a 901 class 2-4-0, similar to 910 which is in the NRM.

Withdrawn september 1919 from Tweedmouth.

[Bryan]

Nearest as I could manage.
910 at Kirkby Stephen in 2011.

[john coffin]

did 901's have a number that ended in '75?? which is what the tail end of the plate suggests. Hoole's NER loco's is not clear.

Paul

[Danby Wiske]

did 901's have a number that ended in '75?? which is what the tail end of the plate suggests. Hoole's NER loco's is not clear.

75 is the complete number - look at the shape of the plate!

According to RCTS Vol. 4, this loco was built in 1881 and received the number 75 in 1885, having previously carried the number 1464.

[52D]

I have been Getting a little confused as the previous No.75 was an ex GN of ER 2-4-0 and was also a long term resident at Tweedmouth shed I now agree with Mr Bedford that this is 901 class No.75 withdrawn from Tweedmouth shed in September 1919.

[john coffin]

Just shows I should stick to GNR !!!!!!! Interesting that Hoole is not so definitive on the numbering, also that actually RCTS does say that there is no contemporary information to prove the statement about the numbers.
Also goes to show how difficult it is to be definitive about so much pre 1900 history as written and talked about.

But plainly not a converted earlier engine, not least because of the cut out for oiling the coupling rods.
Paul

[52D]

John I confused myself as I knew the original No.75 was an odd engine that was around the Alnwick area. It wasn't till I had a good look at the loco I realised Bill was correct. What doesn't help is the way the NER numbered the locos under their control using up the numbers of withdrawn or renumbered locos. It can catch you out fairly easily.
This was the basis of the LNER numbering system until 1946 when it was put into logical order by Thompson et al.
BTW No.75 in the first NER sequence in 1854 should have been an ex YN&BR loco as they took up numbers 1 - 264 the original would have been scrapped pre 1872 to allow the number to be reused on a 901.

I hope I have made this post clear enough.

EDIT No.3 - T2 is the NER Mechanical Engineers Classification, Load Classification T2 was applied to the 901,1440 & 1463 classes and denoted how many Tons load a locomotive could haul on the level at a particular speed in this case 260 Tons @ 50mph, 220 Tons @ 55mph and 180 Tons @ 60mph.

Rdit No.4 - As per usual Alnmouth and Tweedmouth sheds continued to get main line locos cascaded down to them as they were replaced elsewhere that's why a former Express engine is on the Alnwick branch. This practice continued right up to the late 1950s when the last D20s were withdrawn.