Food in the 50's

[Mr Bunt]

Joe was taken to court for plagiarism for his 'hit single' TELSTAR by a French musician in France who claimed that Joe had stolen the tune, Joe claimed that he had never heard of the Frenchman's tune.

After Joe had killed his landlady with Heinz shotgun he then blew his own head off with the same shotgun at 304 HOLLOWAY ROAD.

3-weeks later a letter arrives to say that he had won his court case against the French musician over plagiarism on who wrote TELSTAR and was awarded £3.MILLION quid in damages (thats £3.MILLION in 1967 money).

Meantime poor old Heinz sinks into obscurity soon after and over the following decades develops motor neurone disease and eventually dies in 2000 alone in his flat in Southampton with £18.quid in his pocket and nothing else to his name!

Thats Rock& Roll...

Billy Bragg got it in one in his song "Waiting For The Great Leap Forward":

"Here comes the future and you can't run from it
If you've got a blacklist I want to be on it
It's a mighty long way down rock 'n roll
From Top of the Pops to drawing the dole
If no one seems to understand
Start your own revolution and cut out the middleman"

[Mr Bunt]

Morning all
Heinz played bass on the Tornados hit Telstar before branching off on his own.
I can remember when they first hooked up to the USA via Telstar, hazy black and white picturers, but we thought it was great.
Eddie Cochran, a rockabilly great, was a very good guitarist. I'm told he was the first to use a wire(rather than wound) string on the third position from the top on an electric guitar. This enabled the player to bend the string and led to the techniques used by Hendrix, Clapton etc. Eddie is supposed to have shown the re-stringing of his guiatar to Big Jim Sullivan who was backing Marty Wilde on Edddie's last tour.
Earlswood Nob

Heinz didn't only play bass guitar on "Telstar", he was the vocalist too. It's not just an instrumental, a vocal passage starts at 2:23 (on my CD version at least) and that's him.

Note to Micky: You've obviously never lived in Hampshire, so can be forgiven your heinous crime this once. Heinz Burt Close is in the Borough of Eastleigh not the City of Southampton. Feel lucky I haven't set my sister on you; she lives in Eastleigh, where them Bulleid things woz built boi people who speak just loike that

[52D]

Note to Micky: You've obviously never lived in Hampshire, so can be forgiven your heinous crime this once. Heinz Burt Close is in the Borough of Eastleigh not the City of Southampton. Feel lucky I haven't set my sister on you; she lives in Eastleigh, where them Bulleid things woz built [/quote]


Is that like calling a Man of Kent a Kentish Man? Or a Makem a Geordie?

[Mr Bunt]

Note to Micky: You've obviously never lived in Hampshire, so can be forgiven your heinous crime this once. Heinz Burt Close is in the Borough of Eastleigh not the City of Southampton. Feel lucky I haven't set my sister on you; she lives in Eastleigh, where them Bulleid things woz built

Is that like calling a Man of Kent a Kentish Man? Or a Makem a Geordie?[/quote]

Oi dunno, but it seems to get a bit political in Ampshoire!

[Mr Bunt]

Goodness me. I never knew any of this stuff. Thanks very much for all the nostalgia. I am surprised that railway sounds were never used on any of the records.

A Deltic accelerating would have been a good sound to have mingled in the background of Telstar. Ritchie Blackmore on guitar for Just Like Eddie, that is great.

Ahh ... but Joe had a Class 304 bathroom

[Postman Prat]

Hi Mr B

Very political in Hants at present - we've got a by-election coming up. I can hardly control my indifference!!!

[Mr Bunt]

Hi Mr B

Very political in Hants at present - we've got a by-election coming up. I can hardly control my indifference!!!

When it gets politicoil down Ampshoire way just Google "stephen milligan mp eastleigh". Several interesting tangerine recipes emerge, amongst other things!

[Coboman]

A4 link to Brollies, Samuel Fox near Sheffield had brolly ribs as part of his range of steel products, Silver Fox had a stainless fox on its side from Samuel Fox.

Stocksbridge. My Great Grandfather owned a wire mill in the Don valley near Foxes that made two ajoining items for the brollies, needles that were used to stich them, and brolly ribs themselves. He got steel wire they were drawn from from Foxes and Cammell Lairds in Penistone. In the late 1920s Cammell Lairds spent a small fortune updating all their steel making equipment and became the most up to date steel plant in the UK. Sam Fox's were still using very much Victorian equipment. The slump hit the country and Cammell's couldn't pay their loans and went under. Sam Fox's survived as they had no debts.

[earlswood nob]

Morning all
Thanks for the info, Mr Bunt, I remember someone claiming that they stole Telstar, but didn't know that it actually got into court.
Earlswood Nob

[Mickey]

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[mr B]

Buddy Holly , The BIG Bopper , Ritchie Valens and Rodger Peterson .

44 year ago to-day ....


mr B

3 February 1959. Fifty-four years ago today. Where did you lose ten of them?

well we wont loose any years to-day , because a long time ago (:mrgreen: ) on this day in 1953 our 'sweety' rationing came to end .


mr B

[mr B]

Heinz didn't only play bass guitar on "Telstar", he was the vocalist too. It's not just an instrumental, a vocal passage starts at 2:23 (on my CD version at least) and that's him.

well now i've got the 45 and must try this one out , can you please try and post the words , so i know what i'm listerning for , because i've never heard singing on a non vocal.


mr B

[StevieG]

" .... WALLS tinned sauages in lard. Lovely "

Can't hear mention of Wall's sausages without remembering the following :

Late 1969 / early '70; First ever job, and allocated with the Willesden S&T 'mechanical installers' gang: All on a break in renewing fittings under Acton Canal Wharf Box [on BR(LM) line between Acton Wells Jn. (ex-N&SWJR) and Cricklewood/Brent (ex-MR)], some distance south of Willesden Shed, for eating of the various home-made packed lunches, on & around the box steps, and on adjacent very slight cutting 'bank', in the sun.
Across the line (on its N.E. side) is a fair expanse of fenced waste-ish ground belonging to the Wall's factory whose rear is about 100 yards away to the right.

Suddenly, a great commotion at the factory - a large escaped porker heading roughly our way over the waste ground but inside the fence, before veering away and carrying on to the left, hotly pursued by about four gents in white overall coats and 'pork-pie' caps.
The ensemble continue to run around hither and thither while its four-legged member continues to just evade capture (I am doubtful that if just one of the others manages to grab it that they'll be able to hold on to it), while we look on, back and forth, and carry on chomping.

After about three minutes they somehow succeed in arresting the escapee and lead it back inside and out of sight, and peace resumes.
One of the lads leans over to me, the relative newcomer, and says (almost Cook & Moore style) 'You enjoying them pork luncheon meat sarnies?' 'Yes thanks.'
Truly, I was (not easily upset by such connections), but it did add a bit of unusual and amusing enlightenment to the day!

[Mr Bunt]

Heinz didn't only play bass guitar on "Telstar", he was the vocalist too. It's not just an instrumental, a vocal passage starts at 2:23 (on my CD version at least) and that's him.

well now i've got the 45 and must try this one out , can you please try and post the words , so i know what i'm listerning for , because i've never heard singing on a non vocal.


mr B

There are no "words" as such, it's a vocal harmony (ah-ah-ah, ah-ah ..."). May not be apparent on a 45 but it's crystal clear from a CD.

[strang steel]

Yes, I remember that from the 1960s. We used to have arguments at school as to whether it was someone singing the tune, or whether it was another keyboard instrument trying to imitate a persons voice.