4489 Back to Blue
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Thanks for the info, it's cleared a lot up for me regarding 4489's history
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Actually it was only removed when the double chimney was applied. The bell stayed on the locomotive until the late 1950s. The bell was certainly immobilized, though earlier than the war apparently.jwealleans wrote:I believe the bell did stay on during the war, although not operating and was only removed when the smokebox numberplate was applied by BR.
Certainly it is accurate to have 60010 with the bell and with the smokebox numberplate. One of my favourite photographs of 60010 can be found in Peter Townend's Top Shed, with her sitting opposite another of the A4s, albeit in BR dark green and with the bell.
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A really good photograph of 60010 with the bell, in 1954, can be found here.
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Just recieved confirmation from the restoration team at Shildon that the nameplates will have a coronation red background and that the forward smokebox access hatches will be removed
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Now that is excellent news. A true Coronation locomotive in every sense of the word. I envy the Canadians - they're going to be getting a fabulous exhibit when it goes home. Will treasure the time it has left in the UK. Once the NRM let us know the dates, that's it - going to book my week off especially for it.
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Now if they can just sort out the whistle valve with a take-off pipe for the bell's actuator piston!
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...Certainly it is accurate to have 60010 with the bell and with the smokebox numberplate. One of my favourite photographs of 60010 can be found in Peter Townend's Top Shed, with her sitting opposite another of the A4s, albeit in BR dark green and with the bell.
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Nice photo, and here is another someone sent to me not long ago. I was asked if I could work out the date. Best I can think is between 1949 and 1957.
There is a train reporting number(?) above the number plate and a large headboard, but the scan is too small to make out what they say.
Cheers,
Owd Sweedy.
Ottawa.
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Nice photo, and here is another someone sent to me not long ago. I was asked if I could work out the date. Best I can think is between 1949 and 1957.
There is a train reporting number(?) above the number plate and a large headboard, but the scan is too small to make out what they say.
Cheers,
Owd Sweedy.
Ottawa.
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That is great news JJ , thanks for sharing.Blackout60800 wrote:Just recieved confirmation from the restoration team at Shildon that the nameplates will have a coronation red background and that the forward smokebox access hatches will be removed
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That to me, looks like the headboard for "The Capitals Limited" which I'm not aware 60010 was used extensively on - seen lots of shots of Empire of India and Commonwealth of Australia on that train.owd sweedy wrote: Nice photo, and here is another someone sent to me not long ago.I was asked if I could work out the date. Best I can think is between 1949 and 1957.
There is a train reporting number(?) above the number plate and a large headboard, but the scan is too small to make out what they say.
Cheers,
Owd Sweedy.
Ottawa.
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All I can help with is it's between 8th May 1952 and 19th November 1957owd sweedy wrote:attachment=0]60010 BR and Bell.jpeg[/attachment]
I was asked if I could work out the date. Best I can think is between 1949 and 1957.
There is a train reporting number(?) above the number plate and a large headboard, but the scan is too small to make out what they say.
Cheers,
Owd Sweedy.
Ottawa.
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If it says "Capitals" then it must be before summer 1953.
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Also recieved confirmation on fitment of long guard irons and long cylinder cock pipes. She's definitely going to be the real deal!
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The restoration of D of C is progressing really well and she has been put back with her tender and moved beside the Duchess for the Easter weekend.
One thing that transpired over the last week was the decision by Exporail museum in Montreal to make space in the main Angus Pavilion for D of C on her return to Canada. She will be positioned on a track beside their Royal Hudson, an iconic locomotive of the same era, and will be just about the first thing seen when you walk in to the display hall (these are the best seats in the house!). Not only will the visitor be able to compare two magnificent locomotives of similar vintage, but will also be able to walk underneath them and see the inside third cylinder, as well as walk through the tender, and look down on them from a balcony. The Angus pavilion is a purpose built, state of the art exhibition hall with year round climate control and public access. This is a significant step and certainly one that I was hoping for, though I thought it might be a year or two until the Angus extension was built and a space was made available.
I have attached two photos, one shows the building she had been in for the last 46 years, and the other shows her new digs along side the Royal Hudson. The visitors "walk under" can be seen beside the loco. D of C will replace the CN diesel to the right of the Hudson.
As a footnote, you will see a Royal Crown on the Hudson's running boards, this is because in 1938 King George VI and Elizabeth (Queen mom) visited Canada and rode across the country by train. This locomotive ran the leg from Quebec city to Vancouver (3,224. miles, including 25 crew changes and no engine failure), the King rode in the cab when he could and was so impressed with the locomotive, he later gave the CPR permission to call them "Royal Hudson" and wear that crown.
Cheers
Owd Sweedy.
One thing that transpired over the last week was the decision by Exporail museum in Montreal to make space in the main Angus Pavilion for D of C on her return to Canada. She will be positioned on a track beside their Royal Hudson, an iconic locomotive of the same era, and will be just about the first thing seen when you walk in to the display hall (these are the best seats in the house!). Not only will the visitor be able to compare two magnificent locomotives of similar vintage, but will also be able to walk underneath them and see the inside third cylinder, as well as walk through the tender, and look down on them from a balcony. The Angus pavilion is a purpose built, state of the art exhibition hall with year round climate control and public access. This is a significant step and certainly one that I was hoping for, though I thought it might be a year or two until the Angus extension was built and a space was made available.
I have attached two photos, one shows the building she had been in for the last 46 years, and the other shows her new digs along side the Royal Hudson. The visitors "walk under" can be seen beside the loco. D of C will replace the CN diesel to the right of the Hudson.
As a footnote, you will see a Royal Crown on the Hudson's running boards, this is because in 1938 King George VI and Elizabeth (Queen mom) visited Canada and rode across the country by train. This locomotive ran the leg from Quebec city to Vancouver (3,224. miles, including 25 crew changes and no engine failure), the King rode in the cab when he could and was so impressed with the locomotive, he later gave the CPR permission to call them "Royal Hudson" and wear that crown.
Cheers
Owd Sweedy.
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This is brilliant news
Perhaps a press release would be wise, to finally end the 'but they'll ruin her again' arguments
Perhaps a press release would be wise, to finally end the 'but they'll ruin her again' arguments
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Can't think of a better place Dominion of Canada could be displayed there. Excellent news.