pictures of locomotive cabs

eisenbahn · Post by **eisenbahn** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:36 pm

Hello,
does anyone have some drawings or pictures of the cabs of Gresley's engines?

52A · Post by **52A** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:37 pm

Guten Abend

Here are some pictures taken in Gateshead works in March 1963 whilst 60032 Gannet was undergoing repairs after a minor derailment.

eisenbahn · Post by **eisenbahn** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:24 am

Vielen Dank! Those pictures are very interesting.
What is the black box right above the reversing gear screw with the dial that has dark and light partitons? I've seen it before on British engines but can't guess what it is for.

52A · Post by **52A** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:57 am

That is the Automatic Warning System (AWS) indicator with the reset handle at bottom right. It is currently showing a warning indication, when approaching a caution or danger signal a horn sonuds and the indicator shows black and yellow. Approaching a clear signal, indicator shows all black and a bell sounds.

Bullhead · Post by **Bullhead** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:24 am

See http://www.railwaysarchive.co.uk/docume ... WS1959.pdf for an explanation of the system (and featuring A4 60007).

x568wcn · Post by **x568wcn** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:56 am

See Bittern @ http://www.yorksteam.co.uk/pages/a4-600 ... 071215.htm

and Mallard attached

Sir Nigel Gresley · Post by **Sir Nigel Gresley** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:15 pm

52A wrote:That is the Automatic Warning System (AWS) indicator with the reset handle at bottom right. It is currently showing a warning indication, when approaching a caution or danger signal a horn sonuds and the indicator shows black and yellow. Approaching a clear signal, indicator shows all black and a bell sounds.

AWS is very similar to your INDUSI.

52A · Post by **52A** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:25 pm

x568wcn wrote:See Bittern @ http://www.yorksteam.co.uk/pages/a4-600 ... 071215.htm

and Mallard attached

Wondered where they had put the air brake controls, where have they hidden the compressor/s?

eisenbahn · Post by **eisenbahn** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:11 pm

What is the small handweel and small handle on the left of the regulator and on the left sight of the boiler for? It is nearly above the handle for the brake.
And thanks for all those interesting pictures and ecspecially the describtion of the AWS. I haven't read true it yet but will do so shortly. But from what I've seen it really seems like the INDUSI.

bricam5 · Post by **bricam5** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:57 pm

As far as I can see,the handle you refer to,is the blower or Jet.
This is coupled to a perforated ring around the top of the blastpipe in the smoke box.and sends a jet of steam through the vortex and up to the chimney to maintain a vacuum in the smokebox.

Its main use was to maintain a draught through the firebox and tubes when the regulator was closed during running to prevent a blow back of the fire into the cab.

52A · Post by **52A** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:10 pm

eisenbahn wrote:What is the small handweel and small handle on the left of the regulator and on the left sight of the boiler for? It is nearly above the handle for the brake.
And thanks for all those interesting pictures and ecspecially the describtion of the AWS. I haven't read true it yet but will do so shortly. But from what I've seen it really seems like the INDUSI.

If you are looking at the colour picture of Bittern I think the valves are for the air brake compressor. On the A4, and all other gresley locos, the blower control is a plain straight handle which is higher up and to the right. The addition of air braking has altered the controls at the Drivers side, compare with pictures of Gannet taken 45 years earlier fitted with Vacuum brakes only!

eisenbahn · Post by **eisenbahn** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:32 pm

And where do I find the handle for the whistle?
Where there ever British locomotives which had cylinder cocks operated by air pressure?

Sir Nigel Gresley · Post by **Sir Nigel Gresley** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:54 pm

eisenbahn wrote:And where do I find the handle for the whistle?
Where there ever British locomotives which had cylinder cocks operated by air pressure?

The whistle, like the regulator, can be operated from both sides of the cab. The whistle is the thin horizontal rod just above the teapot shelf, above the firedoor. There is a pull-out handle at each end. It is like a small version of the regulator, but lower down. In the picture of Mallard's cab, the left-hand whistle handle is in the bottom left-hand corner of the picture.

PM (PN) me if you want me to erklären auf Deutsch!

As far as I am aware, all British locos had mechanical, rod-operated cylinder cocks.

hunslet · Post by **hunslet** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:41 am

Hello Sir Nigel Gresley
Slightly off topic,but warst Du schon in Deutschland?
Deine Deutschsprachkentnisse ist sehr beeindruckend.
cheers.............Hunslet.

Sir Nigel Gresley · Post by **Sir Nigel Gresley** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:28 pm

hunslet wrote:Hello Sir Nigel Gresley
Slightly off topic,but warst Du schon in Deutschland?
Deine Deutschsprachkentnisse ist sehr beeindruckend.
cheers.............Hunslet.

Yes, I spent a couple of years near Krefeld in the early 70's (you couldn't keep me away from Rheine), 4 years in Paderborn in the early 80's (you couldn't keep me away from Saalfeld) and 6 months in Koblenz in 2000.
I have over 15,000 slides of West & East German and Austrian railways, which I am now trying to find time to scan.

It was worth learning the language so that I could ask for footplate rides, which I invariably got!

Do you live in Leeds?

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