Ashburton Grove

[Mickey]

Does anyone know what the opening hours of those Finsbury Park boxes were?.

[macduff]

Micky, i have had a look through a WTT of 1962. the box hours at Finsbury Pk were as follows.
1. Finsbury Pk No1, 8.30 pm Sunday to 6.0 am Sunday.Sunday 10.0 am for passage of 2Z91.
2. Ashburton Grove, 5.30 am to 8.10 pm weekdays. Sundays as arranged by the yardmaster.
3. Finsbury Pk No2, 10.0 pm Sunday to 6.0 am Sunday.
4. Finsbury Pk No 3,4,5,6 Continuously.
5. Finsbury Pk No 7, 6.0 am to 8.40 pm weekdays.

Hope this helps.

[Mickey]

Thanks macduff.

[DaveGN]

Interesting to note the use of the am and pm rather than the 24 hour clock!

I wonder when the 24hrs came in?

[Mickey]

Personally I prefer using am & pm times rather than the continental 24 hours timing.

[R. pike]

One of my notable absences that one..

I have since found a layout and locking table for FP2 if anyone is interested..

[lemmo]

@ R. pike, yes I'd be interested in the layout.

It's interesting piecing together the Finsbury Park area as a whole from the various box diagrams, and getting a flavour of the varied train movements there. Must have been a bustling hub the the first half of the C20th.

Some omission still: haven't seen a #4 box diagram anywhere, and would be interested to see an earlier #6 before the layout was rationalised.

A post over at signalbox.org forums gives closing dates for the various boxes: Ashburton Grove, #1 and #4 went in 1974, #2 #3 #5 and #6 the following year.

[Mickey]

Finsbury Park N.7 closed in October 1970 although I don't know the exact date?.

[macduff]

Micky, i will have a look through my old collection and see if i have more photos, i know that i have not got a photo of Finsbury Pk No7. I have seen a very small picture of that box but it is not very good. So i any one out there has one PLEASE post it.

[R. pike]

This site has some pictures but i can't get them to enlarge..

http://overground.doeth.net/heights/

[StevieG]

This site has some pictures but i can't get them to enlarge..

http://overground.doeth.net/heights/

on trying a double-click on the first couple of photos, they did work for me, each opening up at a fair size in a new window, but it seemed to take quite a while, up to 30 seconds perhaps.

[Mickey]

I have several hand drawn diagrams of the Finsbury Park boxes from the early 1970s.

[R. pike]

FP2 S&T drawing...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/32297024@N ... hotostream

[macduff]

They are great photos of the in side of FP No7 but it is a shame that there is no external photo. There are a couple of boxes that i have no picture of in my collection, East goods, Redhall, Digswell, langley jct and Ashwell on the branch to Royston.

[StevieG]

FP2 S&T drawing...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/32297024@N ... hotostream

I always thought it odd about No.2 that although all its running lines (non-passenger) and block sections to/from it were signalled by 'the Block' (all Permissive in the 1960 'Appendix'), and all running signals were full-size, there were no facing point locks on the points here.
Yet AFAIR, facing points in non-passenger running lines at all other boxes around the area (and occasional ones not in running lines), at least as far north as Arlesey, had FPLs fitted (with accompanying fouling bars where not TC'd), although there were a few instances of non-fitment in the extensive layout at Goods & Mineral [ King's Cross Goods ] box. So it appeared that generally, there may have been an (GNR?/LNER?) policy to fit FPLs in 'Goods' (etc.) lines, in a similar way that it always appeared to me that the GWR did NOT fit them.

I don't find the linespeeds for the lines at FP.2 box easy to establish from the Table A info. in the '60 Appendix, but it seems likely to have been the then fairly common 15mph, so I wouldn't have thought that to be a factor in non-FPL provision there.