Hachette O gauge A1

61650GTFC · Post by **61650GTFC** » Tue Dec 25, 2007 10:30 pm

Has anyone seen the new magazine which comes with parts to build a Gresley A1 in O gauge?

http://www.buildtheflyingscotsman.co.uk

Apparently it is a DJH kit with some of the larger castings such as boiler made in plastic instead of whitemetal. Although expensive this looks a good way of spreading the cost. A DJH A1/A3 is £460 + wheels + motor. This comes with wheels but no motor at £4.99 a week for 125 weeks

mick b · Post by **mick b** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:35 am

Hi
Have a look here there is a big discussion on the same loco

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic. ... 95&start=0

Mick

Post by **richard** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 4:11 pm

It is also being discussed on the 7mm listserver. Apparently the instructions say to use superglue...

Richard

x568wcn · Post by **x568wcn** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:34 am

I decided to go for it, as anyone who knows me would know if I got the entire kit at once, it would be built in around 2 hours, all completly wrong, or I'd get half way through and give up.
With this I get a bit at a time, and can't work any faster, and you get full clear instructions (almost) in the last picture it shows the 'flaps' on the sides of the cab where the roof will sit bent , but doesn't tell you to bend them in, although the DVD does!

As for painting it, from the DVD it looks as iff the boiler comes ready made, painted and lined, looks like you have to match the cab to the boiler and tender.

So I have part one, and hit a snag on it already!
On the side (didn't know what they were!) are the washout holes.....well mine weren't holes!

61650GTFC · Post by **61650GTFC** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:03 am

I too am tempted even though i model the late 50's and this loco would be totally wrong. I would have to convert it left hand drive and swap the tender with a non corridor A4 or something. The cab wouldn't be right eather. When did the A3's have there cabs modified to have a smaller cutout to the rear to match the tenders?

As a 1928 A1 it looks a very nice model though. I wonder how many serious modellers would contemplate it though? It seems a bit limited.

The attraction to me is that unlike most of these offers it doesn't cost much more in the end than a quality kit and you can buy it in stages. It would take me 2 years to build anyway so im in no rush. Its just a pity its such a specific kit that only covers a short period.

x568wcn · Post by **x568wcn** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:14 am

Yes 125 issues Pt1 50p Pt2 2.99 all the rest 4.99

Boris · Post by **Boris** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:22 pm

Thats 3 or 6 years approx depending and £623.75 plus motor as in a previous answer.

Well over £1000.00

I think I would be looking at "Rails of Sheffield" for something finished, painted and ready to run.

61650GTFC · Post by **61650GTFC** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:25 am

I think well over £1000 is a bit over the top unless you plan on getting someone else to build it. With the loco including the wheels and apparantly the transfers (and i suspect nameplates) too its not going to cost anymore than a DJH. Your just limited to a specific loco and time wher the DJH can provide all the variations.

CVR1865 · Post by **CVR1865** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 6:01 pm

The cab wouldn't be right eather. When did the A3's have there cabs modified to have a smaller cutout to the rear to match the tenders?

The A1's had their cabs changed with the introduction of bucket seats for the crew in 1935. 2508 was used as a mock up in Doncastor but did not appear with the high tender. Also 4472 was rebuilt as A3 in '47 so would be the wrong class for BR days and then it was made left handed (Yeadons Vol 1).

Simon.

61650GTFC · Post by **61650GTFC** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:10 pm

Converting the loco to left hand drive would not be too difficult. Double chimmneys and streamlined domes are easy to get old of from the likes of Ragstone models. I have done this to a number of old 00 Hornby A1's before they introduced the super detail A3, using crownline and finecast parts.

The cab is the only difficult part but i have a few ideas that i will experiment with. Some may think im mad but i cant afford to shell out in one go for a David Andrews let alone DJH kit so buying it in parts seems the only way to make any progress.

x568wcn · Post by **x568wcn** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:56 pm

Hattons have the Basset-Lowke with double tender going at £449, in, (it says) 1928 livery

61650GTFC · Post by **61650GTFC** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:07 pm

Heres my attempt at modifying the cab to a later version with a smaller cut out at the rear. I bought two issues at 50p each. I did it by cutting the cut out section off one cab side and using a section off another soldered on slightly higher. Once i get it cleaned up it shouldn't look too bad

61650GTFC · Post by **61650GTFC** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:03 am

Heres another picure of the almsot finnished cab

Points · Post by **Points** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:10 pm

Have you guys seen what is being said about this kit in the below web forum about the cab and allsorts else?

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic. ... &start=525

Points · Post by **Points** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:51 am

CVR1865 wrote:
The cab wouldn't be right eather. When did the A3's have there cabs modified to have a smaller cutout to the rear to match the tenders?
Also 4472 was rebuilt as A3 in '47 so would be the wrong class for BR days and then it was made left handed (Yeadons Vol 1).

Simon.

I'm trying to replicate the A1 4472 as she was in May 1928, would you happen to know what the backhead layout of gauges etc was at that point as with the cab lowering it obviously differ's from the original A1 backhead layout?

One thing for sure is that on the model the firebox door is wrongly hinged for an A1 as what is shown is for an A3

The LNER Encyclopedia

Hachette O gauge A1

Hachette O gauge A1

125 weekor is it fortnightly.

A3 cab