Modelling a P2, Need a name ...
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Modelling a P2, Need a name ...
As same of you maybe aware I'm having my p2 built up Blink Bonney,
And cant think of name or number, now I want to have something be different and new number
Can any one think of any names/numbers ?
Ant
And cant think of name or number, now I want to have something be different and new number
Can any one think of any names/numbers ?
Ant
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Re: Modelling a P2, Need a name ...
How about MACBETH 1606, the year quoted as the most likely, on Wikepedia
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Keeping with the Macbeth theme (I assume that year is date of authorship - the real King lived a lot earlier), there's "Thane of Glamis". Macbeth was also "Thane of Cawdor" but Cawdor is outside of P2 territory.
If you're a royalist, then "Elizabeth of Glamis" is another Glamis option. Or for a republican, perhaps "Monster of Glamis"
"Ghost of Banquo" and "Burnham Wood" would be further Macbeth names (I'm not sure where the real Burnham wood is, if there is one). Of course if you have a loco called "Burnham Wood", you just have to have a station called "Dunsinane"!
"Bridge of Tay" might be another option?
If you're a royalist, then "Elizabeth of Glamis" is another Glamis option. Or for a republican, perhaps "Monster of Glamis"
"Ghost of Banquo" and "Burnham Wood" would be further Macbeth names (I'm not sure where the real Burnham wood is, if there is one). Of course if you have a loco called "Burnham Wood", you just have to have a station called "Dunsinane"!
"Bridge of Tay" might be another option?
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Re: Modelling a P2, Need a name ...
Hmmm a few good names here to pick from, thank you Richard.richard wrote:Keeping with the Macbeth theme (I assume that year is date of authorship - the real King lived a lot earlier), there's "Thane of Glamis". Macbeth was also "Thane of Cawdor" but Cawdor is outside of P2 territory.
If you're a royalist, then "Elizabeth of Glamis" is another Glamis option. Or for a republican, perhaps "Monster of Glamis"
"Ghost of Banquo" and "Burnham Wood" would be further Macbeth names (I'm not sure where the real Burnham wood is, if there is one). Of course if you have a loco called "Burnham Wood", you just have to have a station called "Dunsinane"!
"Bridge of Tay" might be another option?
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Re: Modelling a P2, Need a name ...
I suspect that had more been added to the class then names previously carried by the NB Atlantics would have been used.
These of course later appeared on some A1s but:
Bon Accord
Bonnie Dundee
Auld Reekie
to give but a few then - other Scottish Heroes
John Knox
Robert the Bruce
William Wallace
Bonnie Prince Charlie (this could be a contentious one with Jacobite sympathisers)
Deacon Brodie
there are many more - assuming that Sir N didn't die when he did and more of the class were built.
Oh - and I have been looking for a suitable name for the station on my layout and you have given it to me - Dunsinane. Dunsinane is just a few miles along the ridge from where I reside!
I also wonder what a P2 would have looked like in BR lined black livery which had they survived would have been the course.
These of course later appeared on some A1s but:
Bon Accord
Bonnie Dundee
Auld Reekie
to give but a few then - other Scottish Heroes
John Knox
Robert the Bruce
William Wallace
Bonnie Prince Charlie (this could be a contentious one with Jacobite sympathisers)
Deacon Brodie
there are many more - assuming that Sir N didn't die when he did and more of the class were built.
Oh - and I have been looking for a suitable name for the station on my layout and you have given it to me - Dunsinane. Dunsinane is just a few miles along the ridge from where I reside!
I also wonder what a P2 would have looked like in BR lined black livery which had they survived would have been the course.
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Not sure I agree - mixed traffic black? They'd have had express blue and then the dark green surely? They'd have been 8P based on their tractive effort alone (more than a Duchess). The liveries for the express locomotives was 8P had the express blue, 7P and below the dark green.
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They were also used on the fast fish trains from Aberdeen to the south. I'm going by the V2 scenario where they came out first in black and then in green. It is of course only a matter of speculation. There is no guarantee had the class been enlarged that they would have been restricted to the Scottish Region? That puts a whole new set of circumstances into possible namings. As several ex LNER men were on the BTC naming panel it is not outwith the bounds of possibility that some may have carried names later used on the Britannias. I did read it somewhere years ago that it had been the intention to name all the V2s but the war stopped it.
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A hell of a big job naming the V2s, still Schools and Regiments come to mind. Newcastle United may have been given back to a B17 and Essex Regiment given to a V2. Seriously though I wonder about the namings there are only a limited number of Schools or Regiments. Racehorses, Birds or directors were already used and Antelopes were to come. I suppose additional Sandringham type names could be used but i wouldnt have liked to see too many more Castles and Halls. A few pre grouping names could be thrown into the mix before the A1s were built as well as going through Mythology before they were used on electrics.
All the above were could have beens, so what would be your choice for a naming policy.
All the above were could have beens, so what would be your choice for a naming policy.
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Well, I've given my P2 drawing a quick coat of black and it looks awful so I haven't finished it. This old one of an A4 may give you an idea as to what it looks like: http://2509-silverlink.deviantart.com/g ... 2#/d50erpaSaint Johnstoun wrote:I also wonder what a P2 would have looked like in BR lined black livery which had they survived would have been the course.
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Re: Modelling a P2, Need a name ...
Have you looked through all of the names that have been suggested on the original new-build P2 thread(s) that can be found on this site?
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Re: Modelling a P2, Need a name ...
Nop ..Atlantic 3279 wrote:Have you looked through all of the names that have been suggested on the original new-build P2 thread(s) that can be found on this site?
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Ay up, Tony!
That'll keep you busy for a week or so.....
That'll keep you busy for a week or so.....
If I ain't here, I'm in Bilston, scoffing decent chips at last!!!!
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Ay, UpBlink Bonny wrote:Ay up, Tony!
That'll keep you busy for a week or so.....
just bought a rolex and miss's few presents so ive got wait for pay day now,
kinda need it now lol ..