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Atlantic 3279 wrote:Forum contributor S.A.C. Martin is I believe working on a valance profile jig for those who wish to cut them off.
I am working with Peter Harvey of PH Designs, but just waiting on a second opinion from another modeller before we proceed with making the production batch.
mick b wrote:The BR version also gives you much more detail ready made !! I personally would rather respray than adding new lubricators, reversing rod etc.
In fairness Mick, that's the point. It's a choice, and I didn't feel (still don't) that I could replicate the excellence of Hornby's parabolic curves or paint finish through a full re-spray. Some people will re-spray, others will adapt LNER models. Both are legitimate methods, just a matter of personal preference and skills one posseses.

The kit also gives (thanks to Peter Harvey's superb artwork), correct shape and bracketed lamp irons (Hornby models don't have these), spare lubricator, reverser rod (both of which are normally missing on second hand models), smokebox numberplate brackets, the missing access hatch on the front of the casing, cab doors, AWS plate and a few more besides.

It's a great kit for generic detailing as well as coming with the etched shaper tools to allow removal of the plastic valances. As I say, changes will be made once we've had our second opinion and second test build before I give Peter the go ahead for the production batch.

The W1 build is looking rather good there Graeme. Will your resin washout plugs be available for purchase separately, as with the rest of your parts list?
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Hi Simon: had you thought that the extended contents of that etch might as well now include the lower sides of the firebox which you need to add if you cut off the valances? You could probably also include a much more substantial representation than Hornby do of the stretcher outrigger that supports the lower front corners of the grate.

I don't see why you can't have some washout plugs if you want them. Trimming away the flash from such a thin, small and fragile component is a bit tricky if you want a good result. I found it best to use a magnifying glass and/or really excellent lighting to check the progress of the trimming and to work out which way up the plug goes.
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Atlantic 3279 wrote:Hi Simon: had you thought that the extended contents of that etch might as well now include the lower sides of the firebox which you need to add if you cut off the valances?
One step ahead of you Graeme :wink:

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You could probably also include a much more substantial representation than Hornby do of the stretcher outrigger that supports the lower front corners of the grate.
Like this Graeme?

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If not - let me know, now is the time to advise Peter of changes to be made. :)
I don't see why you can't have some washout plugs if you want them. Trimming away the flash from such a thin, small and fragile component is a bit tricky if you want a good result. I found it best to use a magnifying glass and/or really excellent lighting to check the progress of the trimming and to work out which way up the plug goes.
That would be great Graeme, I'll send you a PM later on. I think the mudhole doors at the bottom might be useful as resin casts too - anyone building one of the A2 variants need to move them about (I've found four variations on 60503 Lord President that I am modelling for the time period 44-54!). They would also be appropriate I think for the A3 variants, no?
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The oval mudholes are etched DMR parts. I can't in fairness copy those in resin, although an etched oval mudhole of a different/improved type may come from Morgan in due course.
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Atlantic 3279 wrote:The oval mudholes are etched DMR parts. I can't in fairness copy those in resin, although an etched oval mudhole of a different/improved type may come from Morgan in due course.
That's fair enough Graeme, no problem.

I keep meaning to get in contact with DMR for those, perhaps this will spur me into action now...!
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I sense that we are moving forward to building better models of the lner large engines through the efforts of people sutch as you and others making you parts avilable.
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Atlantic 3279 wrote:..... the letters is problem ......
I am now getting visions of a meerkat with a Russian accent and a smoking jacket. :mrgreen:
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So as you can see, and as I've said before, I too make mistakes.

Is not problem, is simples. Even Georghi can doings. Is that a spot of Baltic influence creeping in there?

Of course, I mean geographic/linguistic Baltic, i.e. Lit/Lat/Est, not 4-6-4, even if we are supoosed to be talking about a W1 :?
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Bozhe moi!
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I bought a couple of months ago the last of the DMR mudholes. Comms wasnt easy !! with him, no idea if he is making anymore??
Re needed etches I suggested to Graeme recently:- Spectacle Covers for the front of the A4Cab would be handy as well as other mentioned items. Much better than Hornbys painted line effort.


Simon

I agree totally with your comments each to their own on prefered methods. You can easily either mask off the parabollic curve prior to painting or use a Fox transfer replacement if it goes wrong !!
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I am sorry i cant spell.
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marksouthcoast wrote:I am sorry i cant spell.
Apologies, Mark but this did make me smile. :)

The reason I smiled is that one of the guys who regularly posts on the Gauge O Guild forum has

"bad spellers of the world untie" as his signature tag line and your post brought it to mind.
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Rob, I am glad i put a smile on someones face.
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Saint Johnstoun wrote:When posting can we please use correct spelling and grammar! Perhaps a break from modelling and a keyboard course at the local technical college would help to stop annoying posters who go to the trouble of using the Queens English.
I don't claim to be an expert, but shouldn't that be "the Queen's English?"

The use of the apostrophe is an area fraught with difficulty, but it's not that difficult. As Blink Bonny mentioned "people who live in glass houses....."

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I think that might be a suitably witty remark with which to round off the debate on the use of English and draw a good humoured cease fire, within this thread at any rate. I think everyone is now aware that grossly sloppy use of the language is both annoying and difficult/impossible to understand, but also that some of us have real difficulty in using the language to perfection yet do still at times have something useful to say, that needs to be said.

Did Einstein say something along the lines of "If I had known, I'd have been a watchmaker" :roll:
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