Livery of Reid-Mcleod turbine locomotive 1924-6

[03sinclair]

Looking at the black and white pics that are available, it appears that the loco came out of the NBLC works in a primer or a grey finish lined out. In 1924 the locomotive was transported to an exhibition in Wembley. The b&w pics of the loco at the exhibition appear to show it finished in a livery and lined out. Subsequently, the loco went on trials between Glasgow and Edinburgh on the LNER( circa 1926 ). The b&w pics of the loco on trials also appear to show livery and lining out ,possibly the same scheme
as for Wembley. Does anybody know what the ex-works colour was? And, does anybody know what livery was for the exhibition and trials? Failing that, What would the livery colours have been in 1924-6 if the loco had been finished in LNER colours?

[jwealleans]

I've never heard of it. Can you point me to some source material?

[Steve]

I've never heard of it. Can you point me to some source material?

A quick Google produced the following site:

http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/L ... idrams.htm

You can also go to: http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/L ... eidmac.htm
for more info. It does feature in several books but it's too late to go searching now!

Steve

[scratchbuilder]

Hi (newbie here) i have been trying to locate information on the steam turbines of this era to build them (Armstrong / Reid-McLeod / Reid-Ramsy / Ljunstrom)
I have a modelers article on this if this of interest to anyone, it suggests LNER Apple green, which would be logical if you were trying to sell one of these.

Kevin

[richard]

I hadn't heard of it. As I have the Kitson 'hybrid' 2-6-2 on these pages, I should probably have the rebuild of this NB locomotive. Both operated trials on LNER track, although the Kitson definitely hauled some revenue earning services as well.

I can see why the NB engine was a failure. When you look at US diesels (which are quoted in hp), 1000hp isn't much. These days that would be a large switcher.


Richard

[Captain Baxter fan 626]

Whoa this is a surprise I only knew of two classes of steam turbine the LMS turbomotive and the Pennsylvania Railroad steam turbine so finding out there have been more is a big surprise.

I can see why the NB engine was a failure. When you look at US diesels (which are quoted in hp), 1000hp isn't much. These days that would be a large switcher.

It was that weak?

[Kyle1987]

there's a whole heap of information on this loco, as well as many other weird and wonderful locos at this site if anyone's interested...

http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/L ... coloco.htm

there are some VERY unique engines on here!

[richard]

I'm trying to find a space in the Locomotives section for this oddity.
I think I'll need a new section for Experimental engines. This could also include the Kitson-Still and the W1 with cross-links.

These would not be the first cross-links between sections - they're used a lot for the electrics and ICs which often class as railcars/MUs. Similarly the Kitson-Still is already on the IC and 2-6-2 pages.

I'm waiting on people for unrelated things, so I might get this page added today...

Richard

[richard]

Here's the new page:

http://www.lner.info/locos/Experimental ... Leod.shtml

Richard

[scratchbuilder]

Glad to have injected some new info into the pot.

I have tried a few times to upload some JPG's without success, I am trying again now. Here are 3 pages form Model Railways Nov 1974

These 3 pages are a somewhat 'chaf' but there is some grains of wheat amongst it all.

I was interested this week in finding some detail of this locos predecessor, the Reid Ramsey, as being in NBR black. Which I will use unless anyone can forward an alternative.

*** To help me, can anyone suggest a model that could be used for the driving wheels, its not quite like any BR wheel set from NBR to BR (desiesels) that exists today, the distance between the drivers axles is so small ! ! ! !

The magazine article suggest a US diesel, but not what kind, and trust me I have looked, there are a lot.
I am thinking of a DB E17 or E 18 class as pre the model company "Roco" as being the only 2 axle driver chassis that is close. Rivarossi make a heavy electric that is close, but they put circular strengthening items near the circumference (near the tyre)

Any clues would be gladly received here, I am at the point of making the chassis by hand, and I really dont have the time to. Plus Id rather have some manufacturer give me a motorised chassis I can depend on.

Kevin

[Manxman1831]

Just a picture of a model I made of the Reid-MacLeod. Base was a Bachmann GP-40 with dummy black beetle bogies. Length extended to scale 70ft to accomodate mechanism.

[v3man]

There is a photograph of this turbine locomotive in Edinburgh Waverley Station on 3rd April 1927 with a test train on page 225 of the May 1927 LNER Magazine.

[Manxman1831]

To date, including the British Pathe News footage, I've only 'found' seven pictures of the MacLeod variant online. The Ramsey variant, I've 'found' six, including one of it looking like it is on trial in the yard at Hyde Park Works that was published by the IET in their Electric Traction from 1890 (?) to 2000. The broadside shot of the MacLeod with the officials posed in front of it (printed in Tuffnell's 'Prototype Locomotives') is intriguing. There appears to be coal on the tank casing on the boiler side of the central cab area, suggesting that this is where the coal was kept, rather than in a bunker on the condenser side. Interior shots of the cab offer no evidence to support this theory, but at the same time do not contradict it either.

I intend modelling the pair of them eventually, as you can see I'm nearly there with the second machine, using Bachmann's GP-40 as a base for them.

[Coboman]

The Russians built several steam mechanical and steam electric turbines, all of which were spectacularly unsuccessfull. I did find reference to them on the net some time ago, but I've no idea what the website was called that they were on.