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Re: Loco/vans/brakes workbench - another cunning RTR convers
Redemption! Thanks to the calming effects of beer, thanks to the fact that I kept the structure modular (cab and cylinders still separable from boiler and chassis units) and thanks to the boiler being hard metal, with prominent boiler bands and a top seam in the cladding (complete with chunky clamps), I was able to get good access for conservative treatment. I scraped back to bare metal the whole of one side of the firebox above the running board without damaging anything else, finishing at the handy straight edges that are supposed to show as ridges in the final finish. I then masked around the bare area whilst putting on the first restorative coats of primer, before finally wafting a light coat over the whole lot again to unify the results.
On throwing the loose bits back together to check the appearance, these were the results:
This was the area that gave most of the trouble yesterday. All well now:
Quite unintentional, but I fancy that there's almost a "rebuilt at Darlington" look to the front here:
Plenty of artificial warmth supplied today by a hair drier, and much care to avoid getting any thoroughly wet areas in the paint (only painfully light coats were applied, many times over) has now seen the Halfords satin black also applied successfully and the buffer beams are picked out in red enamel. I'm allowing 24 hours hardening time before risking reassembly! I don't want another calamity.
On throwing the loose bits back together to check the appearance, these were the results:
This was the area that gave most of the trouble yesterday. All well now:
Quite unintentional, but I fancy that there's almost a "rebuilt at Darlington" look to the front here:
Plenty of artificial warmth supplied today by a hair drier, and much care to avoid getting any thoroughly wet areas in the paint (only painfully light coats were applied, many times over) has now seen the Halfords satin black also applied successfully and the buffer beams are picked out in red enamel. I'm allowing 24 hours hardening time before risking reassembly! I don't want another calamity.
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You never know, this might do as a GC cabside numberplate, the number sitting just comfortably out of the range of numbers actually used by the GC:
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No-one would have known you had had any problems if you had not told us! What an amazing beast! I especially like the first 3/4 view. Side on, I am thrown by the amount of daylight under the running plate, but one only has to look at a 9F...
Looking forward to seeing it in black!
Looking forward to seeing it in black!
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Nice one.
Knowing the GCR's policy regarding numbering (indeed, they saw fit to bestow a lowly 8K with the number 1 I think!) could you identify something that was withdrawn around about the time your loco was 'shopped' and steal the number? What are we looking at, circa 1920? I'll have a look in Dow's history if you don't access to it?
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Knowing the GCR's policy regarding numbering (indeed, they saw fit to bestow a lowly 8K with the number 1 I think!) could you identify something that was withdrawn around about the time your loco was 'shopped' and steal the number? What are we looking at, circa 1920? I'll have a look in Dow's history if you don't access to it?
Will
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Atlantic
Its looking like a cracking model
Its looking like a cracking model
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nice, at the risk of swelling your head, one of the best conversions ever, like the others, cant wait to see the black
thx for sharing
thx for sharing
oOo
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Thanks All.
Will, if you find a number below 1253 in the GC capital list that was made vacant by a withdrawal, 1915 onwards, I'd be interested to know, particularly if there's one that was never re-used - although I seem to remember the GC kept its numbers fully used.
Would it in some way be appropriate if this loco wereto carry a number from one of the last Baldwin moguls to be withdrawn? Perhaps however, the GC might have seen it as potentially confusing to have the same number passing to another Baldwin. Maybe the inheritance of a number from a mogul would have cursed this beast from the very outset too!
Will, if you find a number below 1253 in the GC capital list that was made vacant by a withdrawal, 1915 onwards, I'd be interested to know, particularly if there's one that was never re-used - although I seem to remember the GC kept its numbers fully used.
Would it in some way be appropriate if this loco wereto carry a number from one of the last Baldwin moguls to be withdrawn? Perhaps however, the GC might have seen it as potentially confusing to have the same number passing to another Baldwin. Maybe the inheritance of a number from a mogul would have cursed this beast from the very outset too!
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Ay up!
Looking forward to seeing it in black.
Looking forward to seeing it in black.
If I ain't here, I'm in Bilston, scoffing decent chips at last!!!!
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Not fully finished, and awful photography I know. Other things happened this evening, robbing me of time to do any better. Even my printer caused me grief as I tried to print the temporary cabside number plate, but I didn't want to keep interested parties waiting to see the lump in black:
I might just manage to persuade a man who CAN take photographs to do a much better job than this tomorrow, if he's in the right mood.
I might just manage to persuade a man who CAN take photographs to do a much better job than this tomorrow, if he's in the right mood.
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Here, if I can be forgiven for adulterating the LNER forum with images of unarguably foreign locomotives, is one of the products of Florisdorf works of Austrian State Railways, a 2-12-0 no less. It is, in a way, "in context" on account of similarities and contrasts with the Baldwin. The coupled wheels were, I gather, just a shade under 4' 6". It is interesting to see in the more detailed print of this loco in my possession that the rear coupled axle is clearly carried in some fancy axleboxes, since the rear portions of the coupling rods are articulated to provide side SWING, and you can see daylight through those rods between their upper and lower webs
HOWEVER, I noticed only a couple of days ago, after having access to this picture for more than forty years, that despite the careful articulation at the rear, the leading "idle" wheels are not apparently in a pony truck as one would routinely expect - their leaf springs are on the main frames suggesting radial axleboxes at the front (although some info on the web about this loco claims there was a Bissel truck at the front and that the coupled wheels were 4' 9", and it confirms my suspicion that this one one of Golsdorf's 4 cylinder compounds). I wonder how this wee beastie coped with curves and undulations in the track
I am not going to build a model of this, but I'd like to see somebody have a go, at the kitchen table, and produce a convincing result:
HOWEVER, I noticed only a couple of days ago, after having access to this picture for more than forty years, that despite the careful articulation at the rear, the leading "idle" wheels are not apparently in a pony truck as one would routinely expect - their leaf springs are on the main frames suggesting radial axleboxes at the front (although some info on the web about this loco claims there was a Bissel truck at the front and that the coupled wheels were 4' 9", and it confirms my suspicion that this one one of Golsdorf's 4 cylinder compounds). I wonder how this wee beastie coped with curves and undulations in the track
I am not going to build a model of this, but I'd like to see somebody have a go, at the kitchen table, and produce a convincing result:
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Re: Loco/vans/brakes workbench - another cunning RTR convers
Your creation is certainly very intriguing. Looks downright powerful just sat there. Rather nicely done.
Brian
Anything weird or unusual will catch my interest, be it an express or locomotive
I'm also drawn to the commemorative, let's hope Bachmann will produce 6165 Valour.
Anything weird or unusual will catch my interest, be it an express or locomotive
I'm also drawn to the commemorative, let's hope Bachmann will produce 6165 Valour.
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WOW. Stuff Hornby's 01, I want one of those
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Some machine Graeme - who would have guessed what you had started with now!
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think you would need a long straight layout or extremely shallow curves, but it does look an interesting loco for a foriegner!!Atlantic 3279 wrote:somebody have a go, at the kitchen table, and produce a convincing result:
Nice finish on the black, looking forward to the final push and your friends piccies
oOo
Brian
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Garage Hobbit!!
Modelling in 00 on my heritage line, very GCR inspired
Re: Loco/vans/brakes workbench - another cunning RTR convers
Magnificent - wholly convincing "British" locomotive.