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[Blink Bonny]

Ay up!

Shall we get him in the playground, Atlantic?

[Atlantic 3279]

Sadly I did invite that remark to some extent when I wrote this earlier:

If the appearance doesn't seem to work well enough (is it slightly too "GWR"?).......

[Atlantic 3279]

As a means of avoiding any temptation towards anti-GWR violence in the playground, here's a doctored image of the front of the Baldwin to show how it would look with the curvy section of handrail removed, and the stubs on the rails of the smokebox terminated by ball-ends as on the earlier Baldwin moguls. For completeness I sketched in some lamp irons too.
Opinions please Gentlemen, compared to the curvy version, ideally before painting time (say mid day tomorrow):

[Atlantic 3279]

And here is an annoyingly blurred image of the front with actual lamp irons and some nice sprung Kean-Maygib GC oval buffers replacing the Bachmann oval carriage buffers that I originally used just to try out the appearance.

The right broadside with slimmed reverse reach rod, straightened ejector pipe, and dimly visible screw reverser in the cab. Whilst working out the necessary size and position of the latter so as to still accommodate a driver if necessary, I realised just how HUGE the traditional Hornby seated driver figure is - he's five feet tall SEATED, and has a head like a two gallon bucket! Putting it another way he's a full third larger than the Bachmann HO crew figures were, way in excess of the 14 to 15 percent scale difference. I'll have to have a look for some better crew figures, including a driver in a suitable RHD pose. They'll have to be cheap though, we don't want to be upsetting any tempramental wallets now do we?

[manna]

G'Day Gents

Good one Graeme, to me, totally alien, for a British railway, more like an Aussie loco or Indian railways

I'd go with the curvy handrails, to nice to be GW, (shudder)

manna

[S.A.C. Martin]

Controversial me: I prefer the split handrail to the curved one.

Both look good, but if your question was more along the lines of "which looks more GCR?" then the curved one, absolutely.

[Manxman1831]

Going to add my twopenn'orth, and say stick with the curved handrail. To my eyes the curved one completes the front end, whilst the split one, to me at any rate, leaves it looking as though something is missing. I think the GW link is justified, because that's where Robinson started off at, and a lot of his early ideas and designs were updated variations of equipment from that area - the GC green and GW green are the same mixture for one.

[Atlantic 3279]

I suppose that, if absolutely necessary, the curved piece of rail can always be removed at a later date, with care. That being the case, and the majority opinion favouring the curve, I'll stick with it for now.

I too had thought the look of the loco in some ways "colonial".

I'm glad it is liked, rather than floccinaucinihilipilificated .

[Blink Bonny]

Ay up!

Personally I'd go with the curved rail, is only to nail it down as a GC engine rather than summat built for India or Oz. The removal of it surely would be floccinaucinihilipilification?

[Atlantic 3279]

Made an "interesting" discovery this afternoon. Despite the effortless success I had a couple of weeks ago when applying Halfords red aerosol primer over the black paint on the Baldwin as I made good the recesses left by removal of the sand domes, it was a slightly different story this time. I had patches of reaction all over the bl**dy place, the red primer acting almost like paint stripper on the US Bachmann Spectrum range black paint . This problem has not made me a happy chappie. A couple of hours drying time followed by some scraping off of dodgy paint and careful rubbing down of edges, followed by cautious, nearly dry, further light coats of primer solved some of the problems but then a whole new patch of firebox side "pickled up". I'll have to have another go tomorrow, when the paint has hardened more fully, but then the weather may well be foul again. Grrrrrrrrr!!!!!

My guess, and it is only a guess, is that the over-painting worked well two or three weeks ago because the warmer conditions encouraged the paint solvent to evaporate off before it could get its teeth into the black undercoat. The cold weather today perhaps allowed the solvent to linger and do its evil work.......

Beer therapy is reducing my anguish at present.

[2002EarlMarischal]

Made an "interesting" discovery this afternoon. Despite the effortless success I had a couple of weeks ago when applying Halfords red aerosol primer over the black paint on the Baldwin as I made good the recesses left by removal of the sand domes, it was a slightly different story this time. I had patches of reaction all over the bl**dy place, the red primer acting almost like paint stripper on the US Bachmann Spectrum range black paint . This problem has not made me a happy chappie. A couple of hours drying time followed by some scraping off of dodgy paint and careful rubbing down of edges, followed by cautious, nearly dry, further light coats of primer solved some of the problems but then a whole new patch of firebox side "pickled up". I'll have to have another go tomorrow, when the paint has hardened moe fully, but then the weather may well be foul again. Grrrrrrrrr!!!!!

My guess, and it is only a guess, is that the over-painting worked welkl two or three weeks ago because the warmer conditions encouraged the paint solvent to evaporate off before it could get its teeth into the black undercoat. The cold weather today perhaps allowed the solvent to linger and do its evil work.......

Beer therapy is reducing my anguish at present.

Rotten luck Graeme - I can at least genuinely say I know how you feel. It is particularly unjust when you have spent many painstaking hours on a model. If anyone can retrieve the situation it is you!

[Blink Bonny]

Ay up!

I used a different primer. But that also lifted the paint on my Grisleys

I used beer therapy as well....

[Saint Johnstoun]

Interesting problem. I wonder what sort of propellant Halfords use. I at one time worked for Calor Gas and we supplied stench free high purity Butane for use as an aerosol propellant. Like all LPG it can be a bit temperature sensitive and if you are spraying in a colder atmosphere this might just have something to do with it.

I remember a problem arising with a batch of aerosols which had been supplied to a Glasgow firm from BP Sanmex who drew their gas from Calor. This was to do with car refinishing products and a whole lot gave a funny finish. It was traced to a bad delivery where some heavy ends from a tanker had contaminated the product. Problem is with many hydrocarbons is that they tend to purge and clean (like the more recent bio diesel) and if the propellant does not evaporate instantly on reaching the atmosphere there is a chance that it is responsible for damaging the surface, even attacking some previously applied paint.

I personally use a compressor,airbrush, and mix my own paints, usually Revel or Humbrol.

[wehf100]

dump it in a tub of cheap brake fluid and clean the whole lot off back down to bare metal? Shouldn't affect the filler that you've applied.

Will

[Blink Bonny]

Ay up!

Mr Muscle is not the answer here. The plastic cab would be unaffected but it would reduce the poxy resin to the consistency of jelly....

Doubt it would do the filler much good either, since that uses epoxy technology if it's a 2-pack mix.