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Re: Loco/vans/brakes workbench - another cunning RTR convers
looks excellent
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Over the last couple of days I've given the tender for the Baldwin a nasty shock with a selection of razor saw, piercing saw and various other cutting tools, followed by some careful reassembly and soothing application of adhesive and new parts. It almost amounted to tender loving care........
One or two things have gone in the process: The "privvy" or brakeman's shelter as previously mentioned, the oil fuel tank, the original coping plates and raised rear of the bunker, 21mm out of the length of the tank and underfame, the US coupling and toys on the rear beam, and the HO scale USRA tender bogies. New brass copings with beadings have been added, along with some patching of holes in the top of the tank/bunker (to be hidden under a load of coal) a new rear coal plate, a recycled ROD filler hatch, sprung buffers, coupling hook and some OO scale Parkside diamond-frame bogies with Gibson 10.5mm 8 spoke wagon wheels (which nicely sorted out the ride height). In addition I've altered the ladder slightly on the rear of the tank, lowered the shovelling plate (lowering the loco fall plate to match), slightly lowered the top of the front bulkhead and re-styled the vertical handrails on the front edges of the tender. I've saved the wiring and circuit board to suit one of those infernal chips should it ever become essential, but for the time being I've bridged the pins on the loco-side of the connector plugs so that the loco runs on its own. Ten wheel pick up seems plenty at present, without the added pick-up from the tender bogies that was previously present. A bit of patient delicate scraping removed the thickly printed US running numbers from the tender sides ready for a nice smooth coat of black and some new insignia.
I've also tried a kit-surplus safety valve casting in place on the loco.
The first delicate POUNDING of this four-cylinder monster along the rails may not be too far away, although it now seems unlikely to be seen in action at the Immingham Dock centenary open day. I hear that the re-location of Immingham Museum (which was hosting the construction of the commemorative "Immingham Shed" layout), enforced I believe as a result of local govenment funding problems, has not gone smoothly and the always-ambitious plans to have a basic working layout ready by July now seem totally incapable of realisation. A recent estimate is that nothing is likely to be ready to run "under public gaze" until September at the earliest......
One or two things have gone in the process: The "privvy" or brakeman's shelter as previously mentioned, the oil fuel tank, the original coping plates and raised rear of the bunker, 21mm out of the length of the tank and underfame, the US coupling and toys on the rear beam, and the HO scale USRA tender bogies. New brass copings with beadings have been added, along with some patching of holes in the top of the tank/bunker (to be hidden under a load of coal) a new rear coal plate, a recycled ROD filler hatch, sprung buffers, coupling hook and some OO scale Parkside diamond-frame bogies with Gibson 10.5mm 8 spoke wagon wheels (which nicely sorted out the ride height). In addition I've altered the ladder slightly on the rear of the tank, lowered the shovelling plate (lowering the loco fall plate to match), slightly lowered the top of the front bulkhead and re-styled the vertical handrails on the front edges of the tender. I've saved the wiring and circuit board to suit one of those infernal chips should it ever become essential, but for the time being I've bridged the pins on the loco-side of the connector plugs so that the loco runs on its own. Ten wheel pick up seems plenty at present, without the added pick-up from the tender bogies that was previously present. A bit of patient delicate scraping removed the thickly printed US running numbers from the tender sides ready for a nice smooth coat of black and some new insignia.
I've also tried a kit-surplus safety valve casting in place on the loco.
The first delicate POUNDING of this four-cylinder monster along the rails may not be too far away, although it now seems unlikely to be seen in action at the Immingham Dock centenary open day. I hear that the re-location of Immingham Museum (which was hosting the construction of the commemorative "Immingham Shed" layout), enforced I believe as a result of local govenment funding problems, has not gone smoothly and the always-ambitious plans to have a basic working layout ready by July now seem totally incapable of realisation. A recent estimate is that nothing is likely to be ready to run "under public gaze" until September at the earliest......
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Atlantic 3279 wrote:Original loco
The extent of what you have achieved already is mindboggling - I couldn't resist trying to create a before and after comparison!
Re: Loco/vans/brakes workbench - another cunning RTR convers
Just astounding. I think you've created a thoroughly handsome beast, at that.
The tender cut and shut is also rather handsome. Never thought I would say that of a tender, but it completes the overall look rather nicely. It just works as a design.
Probably one of the best looking "what ifs" you've done, Graeme.
The tender cut and shut is also rather handsome. Never thought I would say that of a tender, but it completes the overall look rather nicely. It just works as a design.
Probably one of the best looking "what ifs" you've done, Graeme.
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Thanks comrades. I'm glad somebody has arranged a juxtaposition of old and new, that's saved me a job.
I'll see if I can add a mirror-image of that first broadside view in a moment, that might make the comparison all the more obvious.
I'll see if I can add a mirror-image of that first broadside view in a moment, that might make the comparison all the more obvious.
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Re: Loco/vans/brakes workbench - another cunning RTR convers
congrats atlantic
some sensational work
are you going to create a W1in battleship grey
some sensational work
are you going to create a W1in battleship grey
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Re: Loco/vans/brakes workbench - another cunning RTR convers
It all looks quite convincing. Still not used to the idea of four outside cylinders in non-Mallet configuration!
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W1 in battleship grey - great idea as long as the huge mistake by Southeastern Finecast isn't repeated... the cab is not a straight box as they would have you believe. I remember looking at the W1 on Gresley Beat about ten years ago when my dad was getting started on building one for my mum, about the time they still had it in dark/slate grey with the bright boiler bands. The weekend before we'd been up to Darlington to look at the apprentice model in North Road station museum, and accumulated as many shots of the loco as possible. Think we upset the folks on Gresley Beat with one or two observations - chief of which was the colour, second was the cab shape.
The Isinglass Drawings are closest in their interpretation of the cab shape, and follow the photographic evidence better than SF. As for colour - I think my dad used Humbrol 167 or 156, I'd have to check, but it certainly wasn't anything darker.
The Isinglass Drawings are closest in their interpretation of the cab shape, and follow the photographic evidence better than SF. As for colour - I think my dad used Humbrol 167 or 156, I'd have to check, but it certainly wasn't anything darker.
Brian
Anything weird or unusual will catch my interest, be it an express or locomotive
I'm also drawn to the commemorative, let's hope Bachmann will produce 6165 Valour.
Anything weird or unusual will catch my interest, be it an express or locomotive
I'm also drawn to the commemorative, let's hope Bachmann will produce 6165 Valour.
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manxman have you any pictures of the locomotive in question please
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My model is an eBay purchase of a SE Finecast model - I didn't know there was anything wrong with the cab!WOOTANG wrote:manxman have you any pictures of the locomotive in question please
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Ay up!
I put the cab right on mine with nothing more than a few strokes of a coarse file. EM, the colour of yours is spot on!
I put the cab right on mine with nothing more than a few strokes of a coarse file. EM, the colour of yours is spot on!
If I ain't here, I'm in Bilston, scoffing decent chips at last!!!!
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Pictures to be found on the main site here and one from deviantART, username Stumm47. Hope I haven't broken too many laws with this set.
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Anything weird or unusual will catch my interest, be it an express or locomotive
I'm also drawn to the commemorative, let's hope Bachmann will produce 6165 Valour.
Anything weird or unusual will catch my interest, be it an express or locomotive
I'm also drawn to the commemorative, let's hope Bachmann will produce 6165 Valour.
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2002EarlMarischal wrote:My model is an eBay purchase of a SE Finecast model - I didn't know there was anything wrong with the cab!WOOTANG wrote:manxman have you any pictures of the locomotive in question please
Your model is quite a good representation, ignoring the cab. Numbers might be a tad small, but the rest of it looks fine by me.
As with any complex-curved structure, the cab is a bugger to get right. I used a coarse file and then a sparkplug file to get the shape of my mum's one right. It's easier to cut the cab front to fit the profile, then add the sides and roof before filing. The most metal is actually removed from the roof.
Wootang and Blink Bonny, the shots we accumulated are all ones that are available on the internet and tend to be reproductions of ones that have featured in various books over the years, including the RCTS volumes.
Brian
Anything weird or unusual will catch my interest, be it an express or locomotive
I'm also drawn to the commemorative, let's hope Bachmann will produce 6165 Valour.
Anything weird or unusual will catch my interest, be it an express or locomotive
I'm also drawn to the commemorative, let's hope Bachmann will produce 6165 Valour.
Re: Loco/vans/brakes workbench - another cunning RTR convers
Your model is quite a good representation, ignoring the cab. Numbers might be a tad small, but the rest of it looks fine by me.
Numbers are available from Fox transfers in correct 12 inch size.
I have often wondered re the W1 colour as usual some pictures are Pale Grey and others a very Dark Grey. I have probably seen as many models in both shades too !! Pale Grey is easy just paint in primer !!
Numbers are available from Fox transfers in correct 12 inch size.
I have often wondered re the W1 colour as usual some pictures are Pale Grey and others a very Dark Grey. I have probably seen as many models in both shades too !! Pale Grey is easy just paint in primer !!