Atlantic's works: Portable layout - Scenic details next

[Manxman1831]

I'd go insane if I had that many to clean off.

[mick b]

Graeme
Did you ever confirm the useage/area of the GCR 40 tonners in LNER days? Will these be available as kits in due course ?

Loco looks top notch

[jwealleans]

I've never seen a pocture of any of these high capacity vehicles in LNER days except that one of an NER one derailed on a staithe on your thread on RMWeb, Mick.

[Atlantic 3279]

I'm hoping to do the "body" of the wagons as a single piece in resin, probably with a completely plain interior, plus some separate resin parts for the underframe fittings/trussing. If that works, then I'll also make those available to others if desired. Choice of bogies and buffers will be for the end user. Maybe some other minor bits will need to be made up in wire or in metal strip.

Some of these wagons were photographed on the way to to Vitry with Cock o'the North, suitably emblazoned with special signwriting just for the occasion. The bulk are said to have remained on Loco Coal traffic to southern area sheds without mechanical wagon tippler/hoist coaling plants up to the mid thirties. One at least did further work in the coal industry after general withdrawal from LNER service.

[mick b]

I've never seen a pocture of any of these high capacity vehicles in LNER days except that one of an NER one derailed on a staithe on your thread on RMWeb, Mick.

JW
I think thats a NER Version , will have a look and check. One of my favourite pics too, no longer on my new laptop will track a copy down

Cheers Graeme I feel some modellers licence coming on

[mick b]

The NER ? version is on page 75 of this thread

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2443&start=1125

Cant find the GCR Hopper picture to compare, I think Graeme has delted it in his picture cull ?

This picture on page 75, does not match the two photos I have of NER versions both of which are of Dia P14. There were also Dia P13 and P15 of the NER version .

[Atlantic 3279]

This combined image may help. Strangely enough, the best picture of one of these wagons that I've ever seen depicts the sole example to be tried out with plate frame bogies, hence I've added in a portion of a poorer view of one with the usual diamond frame bogies.

Some time of course, along with everything else, I have to look at making a resin version of that early LNER LWB slatted fish van too - goodness knows when!

[Manxman1831]

Those plate-frame bogies look like modified tramcar bogies, something similar to those used under the H/R2's in London. Hmm, curious.

[mick b]

Well nothing like the NER version mentioned earlier

[Leviathan63]

S160? Please don't.

Scampers to loo - sounds of retching!

I know beauty is "in the eye of the beholder" but the S160 was a pretty ugly design compared with the UK equivalent RODs and 8Fs.

I often wonder why other nation's locomotives were generally so messy in design. It's hard to believe it was simply on grounds of practicality and access. Surely removing miles of plumbing from the outside of a cladded bolier must have made heavy overhauls more of a nightmare?

Ay up!

My dislike is based on more than its looks.

The KWVR's S160 was a real Lumbago engine. Hot in front, freezing cold at yer back because the cab was the draughtiest I've ever suffered. It was the roughest engine on the line and slipped with no provocation, despite the compensated suspension.

In its defence it did have a good steam generator but the chassis - ugh!

As for EM's comment regarding pipework - we tend to put pipework inside the frames, under the running boards etc and also the components they feed. We never went in much for air brakes so no compressors required plus put sandpots between the frames rather than on top of the boiler. What's that all about, anyway?

Not to be rude, but the S160 shouldn't be talked like that. Sure, every engine has its problems, but the S160 was built during WWII and you have to consider the cost-cutting that was in play at the time. Sure, its not a looker for its design, but look at other U.S. built 2-8-0's, some were almost identical to an S160, but they still kept an impression. In all honesty, the S160 could've been successful had it not been built fast and cheap.

As far as modeling an S160 for OO/HO scale, I don't think it's impossible. Bachmann's U.S. range offers a ready to roll 2-8-0 for a decent price. With a little cosmetic work and a change in the valve gear ( the model uses Baker valve gear instead of Walschaerts valve gear), then you got yourself an S160 right there!

[Blink Bonny]

Ay up, Leviathan!

As I said, each to their own.

Having ridden on the KWVR's 5820, I can tell you that it was draughty, uncomfortable and slipped at no provication.

But each to their own.

[Atlantic 3279]

Back to the Baldwin. Here's a link originally posted last September which has renewed relevance here:
http://www.robinbarnes.net/gallery5.html

[mick b]

Missed that first time, it will look superb with a load of bogies behind

[Horsetan]

Back to the Baldwin. Here's a link originally posted last September which has renewed relevance here:
http://www.robinbarnes.net/gallery5.html

That might well have dwarfed the BR 9F in terms of length

[Manxman1831]

Looking at the size of it, I think Riddles wouldn't have bothered proposing his 2-8-2, or built the 9F's, and gone straight for a 2-10-2 design of his own. Depending on how well the GC one would have worked, of course. It might have wound up at Worsborough with the U1 if it was unlucky.

Just checked the painting again - I thought my eyes were deceiving me. 4 outside cylinders!!! Talk about power!