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If memory serves the 'white' paint contained lead which acted as a waterproofing agent, and even if the roofs weren't painted grey, they would have weathered that way eventually.
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Atlantic 3279 wrote: Does anybody have any ideas on what the hidden colour of any surviving paintwork on these valances is likely to have been in that period?

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Ta. Looks like deep cream is the order of the day - a bit like the colour of the raw resin, but it has to be painted to protect it from the light!
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This isn't the ideal place to post this comment, and rather than digress at length on this side-topic here I'd suggest that anybody with a view or comment could instead e-mail me or just turn it over in their own mind for private amusement, but.....

I must say I'm experiencing a certain amount of morbid fascination regarding the announcement today of a "marriage": now is it British Railway Modelling Web, or BritishRMWeb, or BRMWeb, or (B)RMWeb?

Given various factors, such as the previously expressed hostility on RMWeb to things such as the allegedly "for profit" exhibitions run by the Warners' organisation, and the degree of apparent restriction on controversy / criticism / speculation on RMW (not always my impression of the policy pursued by BRM) I'm having some difficulty imagining the two entities as bedfellows :shock: :?

Never mind, I have better things to think about.
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I have wondered too , cant say i will lose any sleep over it either way.
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Ay up!

I had a look at RMweb before joining here. Not for me, sadly.
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Meanwhile the latest from the marriage reads as follows:

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As part of my next OO project I need diamond frame bogies, possibly up to 32 of the little pests, so laborious assembly of any complex, challenging, or fiddly eteched ones (if there are such things) would be out of the question on grounds of the time it would take. That's a pity really, as the real things certainly had very slender looking structures that would presumably be best captured in etched metal.

The Ratio and the Parkside moulded plastic kit versions, and the old Triang cast ones (if obtainable) look very chunky by comparison. Ratio sell their bogies in packs of two, including moulded plastic wheels with moulded treads which I probably wouldn't want, and based on the pack price look about 50% dearer than the Parkside alternative. Peco / Ratio haven't responded to my enquiry about buying the bogies in greater quantity without the unwanted wheels, so I presume that (not for the first time) they are not interested in catering for special requests or in selling at more reasonable prices. It would appear therefore that Parkside must be the bogies of choice - unless anybody knows of something better and would be kind enough to share that knowledge.
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Ta! Had a quick look just now and will compare more closely later on.
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Cambrian models are on the trader list for Scalefour North in April.
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Handy to know that. That event is still marked firmly in my diary & I shall see Mr Cambrian sooner than that too, so if I do prefer his product he should have chance to get some ready for me before S4N.

Having looked more carefully at the Cambrian web page now it occurs to me that a "one piece" bogie structure with only axlebox fronts to add separately might, if accurate and cleanly moulded, be both a time saver and a bonus for final bogie strength compared to the Parkside versions, albeit at higher cost.
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Now I do hope you've all been paying close attention for long enough to immediately understand what my next piece of model making lunacy is all about:

Original loco :shock:
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Body off, above. It proved to be a VERY snug fit and reluctant to part from the undergear even with the three screws fully withdrawn. A look at the size of that flat-can motor, combined with knowledge of the weight of the die-cast main body of this loco tells me that pulling power will not be a problem!

Dismantled undamaged into its main modules
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Plunge now taken, damage inflicted, many original fittings removed (undamaged where possible to allow for possible re-use or sale) and the beginnings of a new cab fitted. Drawing behind shows the intention.
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Since this one in reality never got beyond the drawing board, and I'll be modelling an impression of the way it might have been after certain modifications, plus it looks like I won't have time on my side, this will in a number of ways have to be a basic rather than a super-detailed model, but as far as I'm aware it will be unique.
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Interesting. Very interesting.
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G'Day Gents

I remember now, the North Lincs windcutters !! :lol:

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