NRM 2013 100mph run

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Re: NRM 2013 100mph run

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Micky wrote:
It didn't surprise when i read S.A.C. Martin's original post cos thats the dumb sort of thing that someone would think of doing giving a DELTIC the number 2013 rather then 9013 or 55 013. :?

After i witnessed a privately owned DELTIC carrying all over MAUVE livery about 10 or 11 years ago anythings possible??. :wink:
Where did I say the Deltic was numbered 2013? :? I did not.

That was clearly the year of the planned or otherwise run mentioned. KOYLI has just been restored to running condition and no doubt mainline running is planned in some capacity.
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65447 wrote: Trouble here is that there is a fundamental difference between 'can do' and 'permitted to do'. 'Tornado' is probably capable of matching, if not exceeding, 'Mallard's' world record but I don't think anyone, at least in the UK, would want to compromise that piece of history. Peppercorn intentionally incorporated all the contemporary elements that would provide for sustained and practical high-speed running, inter alia roller-bearing axleboxes, improved bearings on the motion and alignment/adjustment thereof, steaming capacity and efficient steam passages and so on. The workings have demonstrated that she still has plenty in hand when working fully-loaded specials at the maximum permitted speeds, and the ECML remains a 'race-track' in terms of excellent permanent way alignment and has had many of the kinks and point and crossing work that required checks in LNER and early BR days removed.
I agree with you - I'd love it if it was a steam engine, but it looks unlikely at this time. I'm talking being permitted to do 100mph, not if it can be done by a steam locomotive.

Again, I state, I feel if such a run is planned, it is likely to be a diesel hauled special.
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Re: NRM 2013 100mph run

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I really dont think the A1 Society would want to risk pushing Tornado to 100mph and the possibility of sustaining damage at high speed.

Just think of how costly the repairs might be, and the bad publicity that would come from what might be considered a stunt by sections of the media.

As for Micky's comment on purple Deltics, he is referring to this aberration

http://www.zen70752.zen.co.uk/elite/nwc/sep/55016.jpg

Which was the ultimate insult to an ECML locomotive - in the view of some of us more 'enlightened enthusiasts'.

(Cue, the replies of "it is their loco and they can do what they like with it")
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strang steel wrote:I really dont think the A1 Society would want to risk pushing Tornado to 100mph and the possibility of sustaining damage at high speed.
Who said in this thread that they want to? :?:

There's a sudden surge of "putting words into mouths" all of a sudden. Why? :?
RE Gordon Highlander (Cue, the replies of "it is their loco and they can do what they like with it")
Yes, it was their loco and they could do what they wanted with it. But then it was slightly different as it was still (in theory) a "working" locomotive, not a working "preserved" locomotive. If it had been preserved with the sole intention of running it as a preserved locomotive, it's a different matter. GH was no different at that point in time to the vast numbers of 31s and 47s running up and down the country in a rainbow of liveries.
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Re: NRM 2013 100mph run

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S.A.C. Martin wrote:
strang steel wrote:I really dont think the A1 Society would want to risk pushing Tornado to 100mph and the possibility of sustaining damage at high speed.
Who said in this thread that they want to? :?:

There's a sudden surge of "putting words into mouths" all of a sudden. Why? :?
Someone said that Tornado was an obvious candidate.
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strang steel wrote:
S.A.C. Martin wrote:
strang steel wrote:I really dont think the A1 Society would want to risk pushing Tornado to 100mph and the possibility of sustaining damage at high speed.
Who said in this thread that they want to? :?:

There's a sudden surge of "putting words into mouths" all of a sudden. Why? :?
Someone said that Tornado was an obvious candidate.
Ah! My apologies John (and you too Autocar).

Clearly missed that on the first page.
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No worries.

As a covenantor from the beginning I would love to think that Tornado could achieve 100mph in the 21st century, as a tribute to its construction, but only if I had the hindsight that it would not end up in embarrassment.
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So, the second page has turned into a rabble about '2013'.

TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR, 2013 IS THE YEAR OF THE PROPOSED RUN AND NOT THE NUMBER OF ANY (relevant to this topic) LOCO

Now please carry on with the discussion about the feasibility of a 100mph run with a preserved loco currently in the custodianship of the NRM or private companies in the UK
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Back on to the thread;

I wonder if there is a chance of 60007 being picked for the run, as she is still the post war record holder, and will be due for another restoration in 2014/15 and is currently finishing up on repairs
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4472 and watch parts fly off.....
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They don't call it the Flying Scotsman for nothing :lol:
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Now come on guy's your making me laugh now!. :lol:
There's a positive at any rate. :) Sorry for misunderstanding your earlier post Mickey.
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