Get Carter/Robbery films

[Mickey]

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[StevieG]

Micky,
Perhaps these earlier listings may help your assessments : -

(from viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2954&p=23226&hilit=carter#p23226) [01 Jan. 2010, on page 2 of 3] )

" Right, here goes for an attempt (believed all Down direction :
Certainly nothing at KX ) :

- Approaching & passing right through Wood Green Tunnel on Down Fast *, while --
-- "MGM Presents.....Get Carter"
-"British Oil.." etc. out of the window; unknown to me, but happy to acknowledge Bryan's 'BOCM Selby'
- Passing through Hadley North Tunnel
- (colour-light signal, & four straight tracks through several-arched overbridge; centre 2 tracks through centre arch); Uncertain - somewhere between Hunt'don & Abbotts Ripton?
- Between Welwyn South and North Tunnels and passing thro' the latter, while --
-- "Screenplay by Mike Hedges...."
- - [ M.C. sits down in Restaurant Car ]
- DF just north of Biggleswade station (tall semaphore signal, overbridges and high brick retaining walls)
- Approaching Barford, power station on left of RH curve
- Approaching Tempsford (pair of signals on bracket; Deltic-hauled train passes on the UF)

-- [ during M.Cane eating soup ] --
- (skew overbridge over double track plus 3rd line on right), Unknown
- Approaching & going through Peascliffe Tunnel?

- (overbridge with lattice fencing either side of bridge span), S.Yorks.Jt. rail overbridge?, (south of Donc.: Low Ellers Jn. Box just off to right?)
- (distant shot of power station), Unknown - Bryan's 'Eggborough'?
- (MANY signals), Decoy? (Doncaster)
-- [ M.C. reads book ]
- "NEWCASTLE" (darkness; platform flourescent lights; 2 x twin position-light signals (red/white / white/white) beside platform, LH pair elevated and top one 'off' (white/white) [ unusual location for same in signalling terms.]

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* - 90 mph in 1971 : A bit different from the 60 permitted here in the 1960 Sect'l. App'dx.(to Potters Bar, then 70 to Woolmer Green, where finally 90 was allowed).

" Not quite as I remembered. ...."

That crossed my mind as well.- I thought I remembered seeing more snippits identifiable as around Hadley Wood. "

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-- [ during M.Cane eating soup ] --
- (skew overbridge over double track plus 3rd line on right), Unknown

StevieG: I'm pretty sure this is approaching Grantham from the south, passing under the old A1 (now B1174) with the up goods line on the right. If you pause at just the right spot there are sidings past the bridge on the left, where a goods brake van is just discernible. Further on, on the right, are ? Ruston's works. This would fit with the suggestion of Peascliffe Tunnel following.

[Mickey]

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[strang steel]

I would pay a lot of money for a cab ride dvd from the late 1960s or early 1970s.

I have one from St Pancras to Sheffield from that same era, which is of interest but the ECML would be a dream come true.

I also have a Euston to Liverpool one, but that is early 1980s.

[StevieG]

" .... I also have a Euston to Liverpool one, but that is early 1980s."

I would suspect that that route in the early '80s would not have changed significantly since the late '60s (unless perhaps your '80s period would've been after the Crewe resignalling that caused closure of Crewe North and South Junctions signal boxes).

[strang steel]

Well it does depend on how you define 'changed significantly', and this applies to the ECML as well (although the suburban electrification in the latter case would be considered significant by some).

I am particularly interested in sidings, yards and junction layouts, and although the actual route did not change there was quite a lot of rationalisation in the trackwork prior to the 1980s. Along with this went the allocation of many shunting locomotives that spent their time in and around these sidings.

[StevieG]

Well it does depend on how you define 'changed significantly', and this applies to the ECML as well (although the suburban electrification in the latter case would be considered significant by some).

I am particularly interested in sidings, yards and junction layouts, and although the actual route did not change there was quite a lot of rationalisation in the trackwork prior to the 1980s. Along with this went the allocation of many shunting locomotives that spent their time in and around these sidings.

Indeed ; fair comment John.
I'm guilty of first thinking of signal boxes and electrification : I've often thought that the much of the new signalling of the early-mid '60s for some of 'Britain's New Railway' was merely fitted to largely unaltered steam-era layouts which were soon to be trimmed/simplified for reduced facilities needed by modernis train services & closed branch lines (e.g. at the south end of the WCML, Harrow & W. to Northampton; and particularly Rugby).

[Mickey]

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[Mickey]

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[strang steel]

I would pay a lot of money for a cab ride dvd from the late 1960s or early 1970s.

I have one from St Pancras to Sheffield from that same era, which is of interest but the ECML would be a dream come true.

Yeah i have the same x2 dvds John, i must admit it gets a little bit boring in dvd-2 when you get north of Liecester (i think it's Liecester?) long stretches of colour light signalling and just 2-roads but it's better then nothing from that era.

Yes, I tend to play the urban parts of the dvd at 1/4 speed and then fast forward through the rural bits.

What would have been nice would be a 1960s cab video on a route Waterloo-West London Line-North London Line and then down to Dagenham Dock or Tilbury if that was possible. I have a fascination for complex track layouts, and yards dotted about almost every mile or so.

So much has gone now, and before long there will be few people left who remembered how it really was.

Unfortunately, unless I win the lottery, a decent model of a line with authentic length goods yards is not going to happen for me.

[Mickey]

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[Rlangham]

Also features an early appearance by Robert Powell! I really like 'Robbery' - the car chase at the beginning is one of the best I've ever seen and inspired 'Bullitt', and the Class 40 shots are great. Nice scene with a Westland Whirlwind helicopter too