2750 (Tom's) Workbench-North Eastern Modelling 1938

[Tom F]

Funny when they blew up the concrete coaling tower at York they managed to make it leant over..it too had to be demolished by hand, and that took about a year I think. Should have got Blaster Bates to do it. I remember watching it from the office roof, spectacular. Does anyone have a pic of the tower after the attempted demolition, I would love to see one.

That sounds very interesting Dave...sounds similar to Belah viaduct on the Stainmore. Didn't that take longer to take down than it took to build it?

Iv decided my tower will be reduced scale. If it was built to full 4mm scale....it would be twice the height of my town street coaling tower!!

[Horsetan]

Funny when they blew up the concrete coaling tower at York they managed to make it leant over..it too had to be demolished by hand, and that took about a year I think. Should have got Blaster Bates to do it. I remember watching it from the office roof, spectacular. Does anyone have a pic of the tower after the attempted demolition, I would love to see one.

That sounds very interesting Dave...sounds similar to Belah viaduct on the Stainmore. Didn't that take longer to take down than it took to build it?.....

Sounds like a story I heard about the demolition of the ex-GC Brackley Viaduct. Seems it was far more solidly-built than the demolition crew had calculated......

Now we know why nobody ever tackled the overbridges at Woodford Halse!

[Tom F]

Evening all!

Tonight's update has been doing a touch of work on another A1.

Here we have, what started of as 60114 'W.P ALLEN'

Annoyingly she was I think the first A1 released, and Bachmann at the time didn't line the wheels on them, but that will be remedied hopefully early next year. Due to 60114 being the only A1 named in apple green, Bachmann haven't released anymore apple green A1s other than 60163....More on her later.

Anyhow here is how the model looks so far, old chimney removed, by filing, and one of Graeme King's superb resin chimney's added. I've got it to fit much better than I did Silurian's.


The Deflectors have been removed, and thanks to microsol have removed the names very nicely.


Tomorrow they will be fixed back, and the smokebox and chimney painted.

Regarding 60163.... I hope to use an apple green Bachmann version, as basis for doing an apple green Darlington built member of the class
Thanks for looking

[Tom F]

One Hornby B1 with the detailing pack added

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My problem now is trying to find a suitable member of the class for her to be. As has been discussed in the Hornby B1 thread, there are many rivet variations, tender differences and the like. I am a bit of a rivet counter I suppose so I'd like to get a close as match as possible.

Thanks to great northern, I now know that North British built B1s (which this loco is) were built with flush head rivets, so as my model depicts there is no visible sign of any, but smokebox changes were common during works...so a NB loco after a few years could end up with snap head rivets on it's smokebox......sigh......

So I'm now looking like mad for photos. Found a picture of a couple of York B1s...but they appear to have electric lighting, which this donor model doesn't have. I will admit I'm looking forward to seeing the different variations on the B1s we are going to see over the coming years from Hornby.

It does appear B1s are a bit of a minefield....but isn't part of the fun this kind of research?........probably best that question isn't answered!

So if anyone can help regarding a 1950/51 photo of a York B1 that fits the donor model seen above.......answers on a post card!

[52D]

Tom give me an hour and i will trawl through LI for the B1s of that period at York.

[Tom F]

Tom give me an hour and i will trawl through LI for the B1s of that period at York.

Much appreciated 52D

It's a case of trying to find one, NB built, no electric lighting and completely flush smokebox and door oh....and 1950 period, as has been said, smokeboxes were interchanged throughout the years, so the same loco may have a flush one at one point, then riveted the next! :S

Many thanks

Tom

[52D]

http://tracksrevisited.smugmug.com/Othe ... WsZSr-L-LB
Tom cant find my B1 LI yet but have a look through this lot there are a few good B1s and others on it and you can supersize the images. The link should drop you onto a colour shot of a York B1, navigate left and right at top of page.

[Tom F]

Thanks 52D, sadly not much helpful for the 1950/51 period I'm afraid

what does LI mean? I'm intrigued.

It's a shame the Power of the B1 book has such a short section on North Eastern Region B1s

[52D]

LI = Locomotives Illustrated a series of magazine type picture books that give a brief history and plenty of pics of the particular class featured. I have most LNER Issues.

[Tom F]

LI = Locomotives Illustrated a series of magazine type picture books that give a brief history and plenty of pics of the particular class featured. I have most LNER Issues.

Ah right. Well when you have found them, I'd be very interested in what you find on the B1s

[bigwordsmith]

Tom - what a great piece of work - I just watched one of your YouTUbe vids - very professional and some excellent closeup detail.

Your weathering skills are especially admirable - don't forget carriages were pretty grubby as well

Well done

Peter

[Tom F]

Tom - what a great piece of work - I just watched one of your YouTUbe vids - very professional and some excellent closeup detail.

Your weathering skills are especially admirable - don't forget carriages were pretty grubby as well

Well done

Peter

Most kind of your Peter my weathering skills have come on a bit from the tutorial video of which I did on youtube a couple of years ago My series on youtube will return once the new layout is up and running.

Here is the atest little update, another 50A long term resident....and the only Peppercorn A2 at York.

60526 'SUGAR PALM'

The unlipped chimney had already been added for me kindly by Tim Easter, with a correct smokebox door added for my time period (1950/1951). I have renumbered her, added a 50A shed code. Name plates were from 247 Developments, always highly recommended!

The loco started off as the Special Edition Blue Peter model, interestingly which didn't have RA9 on the cab side oddly, which I added myself (rather flipping fiddly!)
Lastly I airbrushed the top of the tender (why Bachmann had it black I don't know) with Phoenix BR Green Pre 1954 Dull.

All that is left is to add a YORK on the buffer beam, and weather to reflect one of 50As Thunderbird locos

[9E]

Tom,

You've probably found a candidate for your B1 by now, but this linK:

http://uk.ebid.net/for-sale/b-piloting- ... 817513.htm

shows a recently auctioned photo of 61084 at York. The loco seems to be as built bar the livery and so I think it fits the bill. It was was a York loco in May 1950 according to the Railway Observer.

Simon

[Tom F]

Tom,

You've probably found a candidate for your B1 by now, but this linK:

http://uk.ebid.net/for-sale/b-piloting- ... 817513.htm

shows a recently auctioned photo of 61084 at York. The loco seems to be as built bar the livery and so I think it fits the bill. It was was a York loco in May 1950 according to the Railway Observer.

Simon

Very funny you should mention that Simon, that is the loco I have chosen! Have a picture of her at Newcastle in either 49/50...showing British Railways on tender.

Definitely having her

[9E]

Time to consult Yeadon to find out when the change from British Railways to BR emblem happened then!

The combinations possible with the B1s really are a bit of a minefield aren't they! I model a similar period to you, but in 2mm, and make use of the better N gauge models where possible. The Farish B1 model is really nice, but there was no black loco with no name, rivetted smokebox and the early tender coping plate arrangement (It seems amazing even to be considering these variations given what was standard a few years ago!). As a result I thought that a model of this:

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2055724

wouldn't be possible at the moment, until I discovered a Farish 61139 that had somehow been produced using the wrong body and so had a rivetted rather than a welded smokebox. Just a full set of lights to build now.

Simon