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Re: Loco/vans/brakes workbench - another cunning RTR conversion?
I'm afraid it's the accountant in me - it's a numbers thing - but how Graeme, will you mark the momentous 100th page of your thread?
This must surely be a "first" and should be marked appropriately! As I know the A1/1 will provide us with many more pages of interest yet, the unveiling of that completed model is unlikely, so how about pausing to remind us of all your superb creations, with a gallery or line up or two?
This must surely be a "first" and should be marked appropriately! As I know the A1/1 will provide us with many more pages of interest yet, the unveiling of that completed model is unlikely, so how about pausing to remind us of all your superb creations, with a gallery or line up or two?
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Re: Loco/vans/brakes workbench - another cunning RTR conversion?
For straight lines, where access permits, a razor saw with thin, fine-toothed blade and a slow, thumb-guided, careful start, working in a scribed line or against a contour or rebate. Where access is less favourable or curves are needed then often it's a piercing saw, sometimes with the blade fitted with its teeth to the inside rather than outside of the frame. In other places it sometimes has to be a knife, wielded with extreme care, or linked drilled holes. Much patient cleaning up with afile after cutting always pays dividends, and I know no susbstitute for experience when it comes to learning ways to use the file evenly and without rocking.2002EarlMarischal wrote:how do you achieve such tidy, straight cuts with awkward shapes such as loco bodies?
You can also start a a razor saw cut, with care, on a flat surface that is longer than the blade, or on one that has features that prevent normal long saw-strokes, by using the corner of the blade initially like a knife (lightly, you can't put pressure on, you just slice/scrape repeatedly) until you get a start through the material, then you can begin short saw strokes to extend the length of that initial cut.
Purely to avoid the need to line the boiler band in a way that matches the other factory lining, which is unlike any I've seen on lining sheets. But see below in a minute.....S.A.C. Martin wrote:why not mould it to include the boiler band
I hadn't really thought about that one. Maybe I should - or I could spurn pomp and ceremony by just carrying on as normal.2002EarlMarischal wrote:how will you mark the momentous 100th page of your thread?
Now for a correction, and I suspect an apology is due to Mick B for my forgetfulness as he may well have told me about this a while ago:
Firm pushing from within at their centre-pegs which pass through the smokebox, and careful lifting of the edges with a really thin blade to break the glue detaches the SEPARATE superheater side covers, intact. In fact, mine were fairly well glued so I had to twiddle a 2mm drill bit to destroy that centre peg completely and open up a larger hole through which I could push more firmly on the inside of the cover without wrecking it, i.e.using a flat ended rod. Whilst you can't see the hole in the smokebox above because filing away the mess has close it over, the other side finished up with FOUR holes in it before the cover agreed to detach!
One less moulding job to do anyway, and the smokebox has become much easier to re-make completely new, from scratch.
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Re: Loco/vans/brakes workbench - another cunning RTR conversion?
Another first too, the previous post to this was number 1472, Flying Scotsman's original number if I'm correct
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Re: Loco/vans/brakes workbench - another cunning RTR conversion?
Not me
I was the chimney tip
Never realsed they were seperate mouldings a good spot
I was the chimney tip
Never realsed they were seperate mouldings a good spot
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So there's something genuinely new that we've learned then.
Here are my usual formers for creating plastic "boiler tube" or similar curved plastic plates. Two layers of 20 thou plasikard, cut to size, get wrapped tightly around the copper pipe, the aluminium sterident tube slides over as a really firm fit, the lot goes in boiling water for a few seconds and then gets quenched under a cold tap. Job done!
No turning back now, as here I've cut off the original smokebox and have taken two layers of curved plastikard (with seams at opposite sides of the tube) and I'm using the boiler and smokebox as collars to set the end diameters whilst just tacking layers together at those ends with a spot of solvent.
With the size now set at the ends, a rubber band helps to hold the whole outer seam down evenly whilst solvent locks the layers together.
Four main layers in total, and an intermediate wrapper of 5 thou to adjust the final outer diameter, allowed me to create the whole smokebox including an extended inner ring that plugs into the boiler, and a rebated front that accepts the smokebox door. Some filing to flatten part of the base, and add-on patches to create the missing section of saddle were also required. I've added a "rivetted" 5 thou square to represent the top cover, and the Hornby side covers have been transferred. The snifter, chimney and door won't be part of the basic moulding, but the snifter position will be part-drilled and the chimney pot positions scribed-in as a guide.
Here are my usual formers for creating plastic "boiler tube" or similar curved plastic plates. Two layers of 20 thou plasikard, cut to size, get wrapped tightly around the copper pipe, the aluminium sterident tube slides over as a really firm fit, the lot goes in boiling water for a few seconds and then gets quenched under a cold tap. Job done!
No turning back now, as here I've cut off the original smokebox and have taken two layers of curved plastikard (with seams at opposite sides of the tube) and I'm using the boiler and smokebox as collars to set the end diameters whilst just tacking layers together at those ends with a spot of solvent.
With the size now set at the ends, a rubber band helps to hold the whole outer seam down evenly whilst solvent locks the layers together.
Four main layers in total, and an intermediate wrapper of 5 thou to adjust the final outer diameter, allowed me to create the whole smokebox including an extended inner ring that plugs into the boiler, and a rebated front that accepts the smokebox door. Some filing to flatten part of the base, and add-on patches to create the missing section of saddle were also required. I've added a "rivetted" 5 thou square to represent the top cover, and the Hornby side covers have been transferred. The snifter, chimney and door won't be part of the basic moulding, but the snifter position will be part-drilled and the chimney pot positions scribed-in as a guide.
Only an idea, but how about making it "readers' choices"? Those keen enough can go back through the thread to any particular favourite image, hit the quote button, delete any unwanted text, add any that they desire, and in this way a "favourites gallery" would be created2002EarlMarischal wrote:how Graeme, will you mark the momentous 100th page of your thread
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Re: Loco/vans/brakes workbench - another cunning RTR conversion?
I hope Graeme will forgive me a moment of indulgence, but I cannot let 100 pages of riveting modelling go by without celebrating the landmark in some way.
The modelling skills demonstrated in this forum are outstanding and inspirational to all of us. Perhaps we could indeed take a moment to post some "readers' favourite" photographs swiped from earlier pages in this thread. As I simply cannot chose any one project in particular, I'm going to "wimp out" and chose a group shot!
Congratulations on your 100th!
[PS: I'm now laughing at my own expense because I expected this post to tip the thread over onto page 100, and I've failed!!]
The modelling skills demonstrated in this forum are outstanding and inspirational to all of us. Perhaps we could indeed take a moment to post some "readers' favourite" photographs swiped from earlier pages in this thread. As I simply cannot chose any one project in particular, I'm going to "wimp out" and chose a group shot!
I understand that there may be a professional relevance from Graeme's point of view to the fact that I would give my "eye-teeth" to own these beauties!Atlantic 3279 wrote:
Congratulations on your 100th!
[PS: I'm now laughing at my own expense because I expected this post to tip the thread over onto page 100, and I've failed!!]
Re: Loco/vans/brakes workbench - another cunning RTR conversion?
Gresley O2, stunning.
One of my most prized possessions - W1, 60700, which Graeme created from a Railroad Mallard. Just perfect.
A locomotive so awesome, one day I hope to emulate it: Indefatigable!
Loch Long, another extremely convincing recreation from a Bachmann K3.
This 6 wheeled guard's van - and its ingenious lamps - really struck a chord for detail with me.
And finally...the first of the Thompson Pacifics (now in my possession, 60500 Edward Thompson) showing just how far you've come Graeme. Exquisite work all the way through, and no doubt I've forgot a few gems along the way, but these are the ones which always stick in my mind.
Thank you - firstly for two superb models I enjoy owning very much, and secondly for the sheer amount of enjoyment I get from reading your thread. Congrats on 100 pages over three years, and many completed, top notch projects therein.
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Re: Loco/vans/brakes workbench - another cunning RTR conversion?
I dont want to take up valuable server space but two out of my top 3 have already been shown so the W1 and the awesome Loch Long are illustrated but my third choice which i think is unusual is his Mythical tank loco that some observers have said they could remember them.
Well done 100 not out, I hope another century follows.
Well done 100 not out, I hope another century follows.
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Re: Loco/vans/brakes workbench - another cunning RTR conversion?
For me, it has to be the reboilered V2.
It looked so good, I had to try to make one myself......
It looked so good, I had to try to make one myself......
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G'day Gents
Thank you Graeme for your posts, I never fail to click on almost every day to marvel at what you are doing to some poor defenseless RTR loco, to add a favorite would be silly, there ALL great, but I did like the B2, and I will be building a A2/3 probably this summer (in OZ)
Congratulations, you don't look 100
manna
Thank you Graeme for your posts, I never fail to click on almost every day to marvel at what you are doing to some poor defenseless RTR loco, to add a favorite would be silly, there ALL great, but I did like the B2, and I will be building a A2/3 probably this summer (in OZ)
Congratulations, you don't look 100
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Re: Loco/vans/brakes workbench - another cunning RTR conversion?
For me it is still the P1 project Graeme. That was what made your posts compulsory reading for me. I'm not posting a picture of it here as it is easy to find on page 1.
Keep on modelling and get around to that Atlantic already!!!
Keep on modelling and get around to that Atlantic already!!!
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Re: Loco/vans/brakes workbench - another cunning RTR conversion?
P1 gets my vote as well. Modelling as good as it gets.
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Re: Loco/vans/brakes workbench - another cunning RTR conversion?
Big loco power appeals to me so the W1, A1/1 and A2/3 get my vote.
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I'm afraid that I'll follow the crowd on this one but it has to be the P1 for me as well.
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I'd agree the P1 has to be the best, but they are all great
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