2750 (Tom's) Workbench-North Eastern Modelling 1938

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Re: Tom's Layout and Work Bench

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Atso wrote:
Blink Bonny wrote:Ay up!

Tom - leave well alone. That's an effect the rest of us would kill to be able to achieve! Well done!

So - muck it up then clean off the muck. Loco cleaning in 4mm! I like it! :D
Tom, I have to seconded the above comment - leave it already perfect!

Many thanks gents....I'm guessing you guys thought I was going to go over with the airbrush once it had arrived (it did this morning)

NOOOOOO!!! :lol: not my intention.....I just fancied weathering differently seen as the airbrush wasn't available, same method really mind, just a case of not applying the paint with an airbrush, instead the powders with white spirit did the effect....as they say, several ways to skin a cat. ;)

The T-CUT has given a lovely shine which I'm really pleased with. :)
Seen as the sun was out I figured I'd get some out door shots. Quite pleased (when I at last got the lense to focus).
Meant to also add, the motion has been hand painted using a mix of Humbrol Gloss 9 with Metalcote Polished Steel 27003
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The K3 looks excellent, and I am inspired to try something similar on one of mine. I just hope that I can get those subtle rust colours on the tender chassis, which look very realistic.
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strang steel wrote:The K3 looks excellent, and I am inspired to try something similar on one of mine. I just hope that I can get those subtle rust colours on the tender chassis, which look very realistic.
The tender underframes were quite easy, Mig powders Track dirt I think it is. :)

Cheers for the feedback. Thats the first K3 ready for Leaman Road MPD :D just requires it's chip ;)
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Ay up!

Chips? They come with a portion of fish don't they? :wink:

Looks very good indeed. Gloss 9, eh? Hmmm. I use 50:50 matt black and track dirt with a liberal coating of oil. Nowt to beat genuine materials, but I'll have a go with that! :mrgreen:
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Blink Bonny wrote:Ay up!

Chips? They come with a portion of fish don't they? :wink:

Looks very good indeed. Gloss 9, eh? Hmmm. I use 50:50 matt black and track dirt with a liberal coating of oil. Nowt to beat genuine materials, but I'll have a go with that! :mrgreen:
Aye, I've also used that method, which also shows great results....I'm trying to avoid just due to clumsiness of having oil on my fingers and then touching the body :?

Few more locos lined up for use.....but it's the cost of decoders I'm keeping my mind on....don't want to go too made with locomotives yet! ;)
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Hows about the white boiler streaks seen on many unkempt locos in the 1960s?

Has anyone tried experimenting with those?

WDs were an excellent example, as were 9Fs in later years.


This photo shows what I mean
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I really want to create this but the streaking is so fine in places I cant think of a realistic way of doing it.
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strang steel wrote:Hows about the white boiler streaks seen on many unkempt locos in the 1960s?

Has anyone tried experimenting with those?

WDs were an excellent example, as were 9Fs in later years.


This photo shows what I mean
http://www.flickr.com/photos/16749798@N08/5898861290/

I really want to create this but the streaking is so fine in places I cant think of a realistic way of doing it.
Tim Shackleton talks about it in the latest Aspects of Modelling book on Weathering. Superb book....highly recommended.

He uses a card with strips cut into it...that way the airbrush can blow through creating such streaks....and then add a touch of thinners witha brush, to take off the haze of an airbrush....I'd say thats only part of it really....not the easiest task that one I'd say!

Also something Tim talks about....limescale has become something of a cliche on locos, so I look at the area in question the loco is based. The East Midlands was apparently awful for poor water....so I can make sure any Ex GCR locos have a bit of it, but I tend to not go made on my locos in the York area :)
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Some years ago, I spent time looking through photo album books and concentrating on very dirty locos. Some of Immingham's WDs were in terrible condition, and the streaking was present all along the boiler length.

I came to the conclusion that this was not just limescale, but maybe the deposits of seagulls sitting on the boiler tops while the locos were on shed, and rainwater helping the said deposits to 'flow' down the boiler.

It may be a bit wide of the mark, but it seemed logical for a coastal depot.
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Ay up!

For some reason, birds used to nest in the smoke troughing at Newton Heath so there'd often be lines of bird lime on the boiler casing and down the smokebox door from this, especially on engines fresh out from boiler washout or shed repairs presumably. It certainly suggests that NH had a special are set aside for repairs.

They never did it anywhere else to my knowledge. However, I have heard anecdotal tales of seagulls "decorating" locomotives at Blackpool so it stands to reason.

Limescale has become a cliche and I also tend to avoid it. You can get a good impression by dry brushing a streak of pale grey down the boiler side then "working" it with a brush just dampened with white spirit. However, less is more, subtlety the key.

And this from a Yorkshireman who's as subtle as a flying brick! :lol:
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I wonder if using a hair might work to produce vertical streaks?

Fortunately, I still have enough on my head to not miss one or two but am rather unsure of the colour mix to use. Maybe white with a bit of grey and cream mixed in?

(That is the paint, not the colour of my hair)
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Ay up!

When I have lime streaked I used Humbrol No 28 which is a pale battleship grey sort of colour. Then it isn't as glasring white and looks subtle sorta-thing.

Sorry, I have no pictures of this, I repainted my lime-streaked locos because of the cliche aspect to them.
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Well...after the last two months of planning, dismantling the old layout....the air turning blue.......

The baseboards are down :D

Not much else to add, other than the joins and screw heads require filling, and then the layout will be given a coat of paint. Then through the rest of November and early December, I'm going to tweak the track formations. Then over the Christmas break get the track laid proper, so that when Tim comes up at the end of January, all is ready for him to wire up.

NCE Power Pro, and Pro Cab acquired....Heljan DCC ready turntable required...all is coming on nicely :D

Below, the photographs give an idea of how things look.

Here we see the locomotive sheds, and turntable to the far left, running along the complete length of the layout is the Carriage sidings....2 being modelled, and the imagination depicting that into the backscene there would be many more.
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G'Day Gents

Looks like you've got your hands full for the next couple of months, and plenty of room to play with :lol:

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Ay up!

Keep us posted, Tom.
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Will do guys, cheers :)

Just back from work, Dad's been putting a Fascia around the front of the layout, looks rather nice :)

No work in the morning, so intend to fill in the gaps and screw heads with polyfilla, then over the weekend pain the baseboard :)

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