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Re: On my Workbench - J73.

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I'm no J73 expert, but it most certainly looks straight, square, and in short very tidy. Such a result for only a week of evening work says a lot for the kit and the builder.

The 0 of the 150 on the Dapol Sentinel does appear too high in your new picture compared to the other figures. It will be difficult to decide, I imagine, whether it has to be altered first, or whether the loss of contrast on weathering the loco will make it look good enough :? .

Just a minor point about the J73, now that I've looked again: In the front three-quarter views it looks as if the splasher-sandboxes may be leaning outwards slightly in a sort of V pattern. Is the smokebox pushing the tops apart by virtue of a tight fit?
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Re: On my Workbench - J73.

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It's more to do with kit than builder, tbh and Arthur has been good enough to respond to a barrage of emails asking questions.
it looks as if the splasher-sandboxes may be leaning outwards slightly
Not much gets past you, does it? The camera exaggerates it but they were: on examination the right hand one had slipped slightly out of its slot and was sitting a touch high, which caused it to lean. I've adjusted it and it does still lean fractionally but you have to look very hard to see it. I may not have seated the outer smokebox wrapper properly.

I've almost decided that I'll be repainting the Dapol shunter, mainly because everyone will have number 150 but that little niggle about the size and alignment has just tipped the balance.
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Re: On my Workbench - J73.

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Detailing and finishing off almost complete. There are no castings for the tank fillers so I'll make something from plastic. Other than that I did tweak a couple of things; the holes for the sander operating rods were a bit too far forward so I made new ones and filled the originals (the green patch you can see on the front corner. I replaced the smokebox dart with one made up from Mainly Trains bits (MT 317/260) and put the grilles over the cab rear windows on from the same source (MT 226). They do some very useful loco detailing etches.

The safety valve lever has been moved up as you can also see. The other thing to make is the small bracket for the fire irons on the left hand side tank top.

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Re: On my Workbench - J73.

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Bit of a break for the J73 - it's stopped raining so I have a garden wall to build, with the prospect of a small waterfall at one end... The motor and gearbox came yesterday so I'll probably put those together one evening.

I have been tinkering on with some other oddments:

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Another conflat. Now I've got the hang of what needs to go together to make the fixing chains these are getting quicker to make.

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Glazed the duckets on the Toad E. To be fair to Mr. Modelmaster the covering film almost came off as he said it would although you can see where it took the central leg of the E with it and I had to paint it back in.

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I've been messing about with this for a while following Graeme's thread from a couple of months ago and prompted by a pair of duckets courtesy of Scottiedog at Hartlepool. This was a body I picked up from Hattons some time ago when they were flogging them off at a pound each. Starting from that much more incomplete basis I've had to make floor and chassis as you see. I have some Comet W irons for 14mm wheels (these are occupation wheels) and will have to source up buffers and axleboxes in due course (I expect Andrew Hartshorne is the man).
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Re: On my Workbench - J73.

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It lives! I've made up the motor and gearbox and had it running with a pair of power leads attached. I've also made up pickups and had the motor powered from the track. It's now being dismantled for chassis painting and then the final (I hope) assembly.

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I've made up representations of the injectors, tank fillers, oil boxes on the tank fronts and also added works plates and the fire iron holder on the left hand tank top. I've used a different gearbox to the one Arthur recommends (I insist on grubscrews and being able to disassemble things, which limits what I can use from the High Level range) so I had to remove quite a bit of the chassis spacer behind the firebox and a bit of the footplate to make it fit. The sharp eyed may notice there are only sandpipes at the back: there was just not enough room for the front ones so I attached them to the brake gear. I've missed a bit of linkage from that as well so it may have to be tweaked again before painting.

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Bits for this are on the way but I didn't show it with the duckets attached. It seems to be staging 'Snakes in a Guard's Van'.

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I've been looking for axleboxes for the French vans with no real success so I made a set for this one. There are several different patterns so I may have a crack at a different type for one of the others.
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Re: On my Workbench - J73.

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jwealleans wrote:It lives!
and it looks rather nice to me :D .
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Re: On my Workbench - J73.

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Race you to painted and lettered then Jonathan!.....actually you'll win,so disregard that!...lovely work!
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Cheers, Rob. It's very nice to see you appear again. You'd already have lost to 'painted' although lettered may wait until the weekend.
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Re: On my Workbench - J73.

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Well it's been a bit of a lull, but I didn't think photographs of paint drying were worth the effort. It has been drying all that time, too; after I put the black on (Games Workshop), I painted the buffer beams with Precision white primer. Five days later, when it was still tacky, I put the red over it anyway and that has at least dried off.

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I did have the chassis to reassemble and here it is on the rolling road with the body in black and primer. I have no p/b wire for the rear pickups so I'll have to acquire some at Blyth.

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Here it is today along with the repainted Dapol Sentinel. I've added the works plates and sander operating rods to the latter.

In the meantime I've been fiddling on with this and that... I acquired another pack of Bachy AF containers. John Isherwood gives some very useful hints on remodelling these to earlier diagrams in his instructions for the replacement transfers. I don't have either of the book she refers to, but there is a photograph of one of the boxes in question at the start of The 4mm Wagon Part 3.

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This is the 'before', two with the necessary detail removed and two untouched. I'm going to use the untouched two as they are, the Bachmann lettering and finish being pretty good.

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Here the other two with replacement door operating mechanism and handles. There are still some hinges to make. Different enough to be worth the effort, I think.
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Re: On my Workbench - J73.

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Verrry interesting. Verrry interestink.
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Re: On my Workbench - J73.

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When I painted my large-boiler GN atlantic 4-5 years ago, for some reason the previously trouble-free Precision Doncaster Green that I used, well stirred and sprayed on in warm dry conditions over fully hard-dry Halfrauds car aerosol primer, took a month of Sundays to cease being tacky, despite keeping the model warm and dry indoors :roll: .
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Re: On my Workbench - J73.

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I had exactly the same problem on my V2, white Halfords primer and Precision green which not only didn't harden but lifted badly on the resin boiler. I stripped and repainted several times but the patches where the paint lifted just got worse and worse. The solution was simple: I used plastic primer.

I've since discovered that the stuff sold by Wilko's is as good as anyone else's and a darned sight cheaper. And it bonds well to resin and plastic.

Guess what I'll be using to prime GN?
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Re: On my Workbench - J73.

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We're painted, lettered, weighted and about finished and the first real running happened last night down at the club. It's not quite complete - crew and backhead are to paint and install, crankpins to cut off and file down, coaling and weathering and remove the blobs of Araldite I got on the side when adding the lead weight. Here it is as it stands, though, with the added attraction of a video to show it passed the haulage test.

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Not a duty you'd have seen one of these on.. shunting the drops at Brafferton.

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More care, less Araldite.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w4Q1xAj8bY

Les taking an interest in the background.
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Re: On my Workbench - J73.

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G'Day Gents

A Grandad look at the,------ 'Shaddup kid look at the real loco, Kid'

nice, real nice :D

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Re: On my Workbench - J73.

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Lovely job Jonathan,they are a handsome,purposeful looking machine...I'm only getting around to sending off to Arthur for the castings so just as well I didn't get involved in a race to finish with you!...I'm now hoping Arthur does get around to the Tennant he's mentioned...possibly outside your timescale but I bet you couldn't resist one!
That club layout looks nice btw!
Yes,I've had that problem with Precision's Green paints as well...a tiny drop of Terebrene(driers) might help an old tin but I'm using only Railmatch since...seems to have slightly less covering but dries better...oddly,their Doncaster seems to dry better than Darlington...
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