Hornby L1 arrived ?

[coachmann]

If Darlington still had its own shade of green after the war, the Hornby model looks quite correct going solely off photos. The Doncaster and Darlington greens are seen below (D49 in Darlington green).

[a4gresley]

Hi,The L1 looks great in photos,mine is winging its way from Modelfair to the colonies.I should have it in a week.

[mistahjim]

Hi all,

Can I have clarification on liveries then? My reading of the L1 page on this site indicates that only 9000 was built before 1948, and so the subsequent locomotives in the class would have carried British Railways on the tank sides rather than LNER.

Thanks
James

[PaulG]

James

No. The first four members of the class carried LNER lettering as Nos. 9000-03.

9000 was the prototype, which Hornby have stated they will not be producing due to the number of "prototype" variations.

E9004-12, 69013-5 (all later renumbered as 67701-16) and 67717-22 were in green with BRITISH RAILWAYS on the tanks.

67723-30 appeared in lined out black.

All the above were railway-built locos.

The contractor-built locos (67731 onwards) with the modified 'drop' in the running plate ahead of the cylinders appeared only in BR lined black.

Regards
Paul

[gresleybear]

Hello
Photographic evidence suggests that there were always small variations in livery, depending on which works did the painting. L-1 No 9000, the prototype, was built at Doncaster, and had black buffer shanks and a red buffer beam, bordered in black and white. The production series engines built at Darlington had red buffer shanks and red buffer beam. This applies for black engines as well: Doncaster painted the buffer shanks black, Darlington's were red. Very few engines, if any, from whatever works, had Black buffer beams. Hope this helps.
Forward!
John

[2512silverfox]

One wonders if contributors read earlier posts before bursting into print!

[mistahjim]

Silverfox - Indeed!

Paul - Many thanks for that. Perhaps this information should be added to the L1 page?

[coachmann]

Ordered one of the LNER green L1's with British Railways on the tanks today seeing as they arrived in the shops this morning. I had planned to wait for a BR black one but you know what its like..........

[CVR1865]

It is so tempting and pleasing on the eye. They are just too out of my era, a real shame.

[65447]

A certain Nick Campling penned an article about the L1s for Modellers' Back Track Volume 3 No 3. There's a colour photo that includes 9000 on which the black buffer shanks and red buffer beam are visible, as well as two more monochrome photos. Apart from a general summary of the class and some further photos, there's a 4mm scale drawing and a long list of the variations between the prototype, the Darlington and the contractor (North British Loco and Robert Stephens & Hawthorn) -built production locos.

[2512silverfox]

Do you know I had forgotten about that! I now have the original drawing in front of me - it was originally drawn for the ECJM and later ABS kit box in 1976.

[Atlantic 3279]

Can't help wondering.......did he draw it specifically for the box, or did the kit makers adopt it, with or without his consent?

[coachmann]

Said loco arrived this morning. Return cranks are correctly set too. Very pleased with the model.

After steps etc have been fitted...

[2512silverfox]

Graeme

The drawing was produced for the kit. I was one of the original team who produced the kit! I have had drawings used by producers without permission - it is not unusual! I think you have one such exmple on your bench somewhere?

Nick

[Atlantic 3279]

I obviously didn't read the thread with sufficient care whilst sufficiently wide awake. I should have seen that you had posted the remark about the origin of the drawing yourself.

I'll pull my socks up in future Nick