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Re: Loco workbench - B2, P1, W1, A3, O2/3, P10, P2 & what now!?
Very much looking the part Graeme. I think the decision to streamline was a very smart one - it does give this class a very epic presence!
Out of curiosity - how does it match for length against a W1 and an A4? I can imagine it's the longest of the three, but the way in which the other two might be viewed could be altered!
Out of curiosity - how does it match for length against a W1 and an A4? I can imagine it's the longest of the three, but the way in which the other two might be viewed could be altered!
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I'm glad you reminded me about a possible "three streaks compared" picture, as I'd had that thought at one stage too. I'll try to organise it, just for the novelty of seeing a Pacific made to look like Baby Bear.
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Re: Loco workbench - B2, P1, W1, A3, O2/3, P10, P2 & what now!?
Thanks GraemeAtlantic 3279 wrote:I'm glad you reminded me about a possible "three streaks compared" picture, as I'd had that thouight at one stage too. I'll try to organise it, just for the novelty of seeing a Pacific made to look like Baby Bear.
It must be said - placing my W1 alongside a Hornby A4 - the A4 suddenly looks a bit stubby by comparison, not long enough by half!
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Re: Loco workbench - B2, P1, W1, A3, O2/3, P10, P2 & what now!?
I hope Simierski can borrow said 4-8-2 for a future episode possibly with eerie music and wavy & smoke effects maybe a title of "Sir Nigels Dream".
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Just to emphasize Graeme - I wouldn't ask! That would be inappropriate.52D wrote:I hope Simierski can borrow said 4-8-2 for a future episode possibly with eerie music and wavy & smoke effects maybe a title of "Sir Nigels Dream".
Let's stay on topic chap. Graeme's modeling is superb - I look forward to seeing the mountain finished in due course.
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You never know, if it's a ticket to fame I might lend you the loco sometime Simon.
I seriously intended to go out cycling for the sake of my fitness this morning, but on finding how gloomy, cool, and windy it was (as usual far windier than predicted by the local BBC weather forecast, they NEVER get it right for North East Lincs) I defaulted to some further comfortable modelling instead. The gloom accounts for thye poor quality of some of these update pictures too!
Firstly, this image got missed out previously when I was upoloading. A better view of the coupling mounting tab, simply soldered across the channel that I formed-up as the rear frame extension. Positioning this just so for the right loco-tender distance, level too, and making it stay put whilst I soldered it was a little trying to say the least.
Boiler cladding bands are now on. For various reasons I went for 5 thou plastikard strips, but once I was irrevocably committed I discovered just how ridiculously difficult it was to get them to stick firmly, neatly, straight and vertical without messing up the surface finish with the solvent. Far more trouble than I had with the one band on the W1 fireboxes. Regardless of any band-to-surface or paint-to-band adhesion doubts, I'll definitely stick to self adhesive tape in future, probably aluminium tape as it won't stretch on application and then "pucker" after painting as PVC tape can, nor is it too thin with dodgy gum like clear tape.
I've also scribed in a couple of panel lines, and set out intended rivet positions in pencil.
I seriously intended to go out cycling for the sake of my fitness this morning, but on finding how gloomy, cool, and windy it was (as usual far windier than predicted by the local BBC weather forecast, they NEVER get it right for North East Lincs) I defaulted to some further comfortable modelling instead. The gloom accounts for thye poor quality of some of these update pictures too!
Firstly, this image got missed out previously when I was upoloading. A better view of the coupling mounting tab, simply soldered across the channel that I formed-up as the rear frame extension. Positioning this just so for the right loco-tender distance, level too, and making it stay put whilst I soldered it was a little trying to say the least.
Boiler cladding bands are now on. For various reasons I went for 5 thou plastikard strips, but once I was irrevocably committed I discovered just how ridiculously difficult it was to get them to stick firmly, neatly, straight and vertical without messing up the surface finish with the solvent. Far more trouble than I had with the one band on the W1 fireboxes. Regardless of any band-to-surface or paint-to-band adhesion doubts, I'll definitely stick to self adhesive tape in future, probably aluminium tape as it won't stretch on application and then "pucker" after painting as PVC tape can, nor is it too thin with dodgy gum like clear tape.
I've also scribed in a couple of panel lines, and set out intended rivet positions in pencil.
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Although this isn't the finished appearance, here "by popular demand" are a couple of three-way comparison images of Pacific, Baltic and Mountain 'streaks'.
Churchward's first British Pacific may well have been called The Great Bear, but in these pictures of 'the three bears' the Pacific is certainly Ursa Minor.
Churchward's first British Pacific may well have been called The Great Bear, but in these pictures of 'the three bears' the Pacific is certainly Ursa Minor.
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Re: Loco workbench - B2, P1, W1, A3, O2/3, P10, P2 & what now!?
Thank you very much Graeme - my word, I do think the A4 looks rather short there!
Strangely - The W1 looks the most majestic of the three, although the Mountain is a very close second. It's definitely the cab that makes the W1 look very clean and elegant compared to the A4, it makes the whole locomotive look rather balanced at the front and rear.
The Mountain is absolutely epic - there's no other word for it!
Strangely - The W1 looks the most majestic of the three, although the Mountain is a very close second. It's definitely the cab that makes the W1 look very clean and elegant compared to the A4, it makes the whole locomotive look rather balanced at the front and rear.
The Mountain is absolutely epic - there's no other word for it!
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Re: Loco workbench - B2, P1, W1, A3, O2/3, P10, P2 & what now!?
Atlantic i dont suppose you have a model 9F that you could photograph next to the 4-8-2. I would love to see it in comparison as the 9Fs always seemed to dwarf other locos in my opinion.
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What next .. 'East Anglian' or 'City of London' ?
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Re: Loco workbench - B2, P1, W1, A3, O2/3, P10, P2 & what now!?
You've created a monster!
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I haven't looked at the feasibilty of a B17/5 from the A4 bodyshell. I suspect that all sorts of dimensions might be wrong, but you never know.
I may dig out my 9F for a further photo session tomorrow, perhaps with the P1 thrown in too. I think this will show that the 9F's imposing size is illusory - after all, its boiler may have been jacked up to the limits of the loading gauge but it was actually a smaller boiler than was carried by the Brits. I believe the smaller boiler was necessary for the sake of ashpan space over the coupled wheels (and hence sustained air supply to the grate) and for reduced weight to ensure adequate route availability.
If this is a monster maybe I could call it Nessie, Exmoor Beast, or Hound of the Baskervilles?
I may dig out my 9F for a further photo session tomorrow, perhaps with the P1 thrown in too. I think this will show that the 9F's imposing size is illusory - after all, its boiler may have been jacked up to the limits of the loading gauge but it was actually a smaller boiler than was carried by the Brits. I believe the smaller boiler was necessary for the sake of ashpan space over the coupled wheels (and hence sustained air supply to the grate) and for reduced weight to ensure adequate route availability.
If this is a monster maybe I could call it Nessie, Exmoor Beast, or Hound of the Baskervilles?
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G'day Gents
OOOhhh.............What if!!
Some of the most elegant locos ever produced
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OOOhhh.............What if!!
Some of the most elegant locos ever produced
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Here's a possible nameplate that ought to please Mistahjim:
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