Darlington Saltburn branch

[52D]

Excellent pic of 1930 an NER Q class 4-4-0 later D17/2 with unusual clerestory cab still it matches the coaches.

[Sedgefield]

Here is a photograph of a trolleybus in 1970 on the last new wiring installed (1968?) in the UK at Eston for your delectation.

[mr B]

Yet another bound for 'Doggy' ani-clockwise again! TMT bought in second hand ex Reading cars but they only ran in service for a few weeks, then they returned to the 'old' faithfulls(as above). I can remember as a treet been taken for a ride on the corronation decorated trolly way back in 1953. Also remember getting a shock (static?) durring teenage years when boarding on a wet day.

Mr B

[third-rail]

probably water into the electrics, could have been leaking from the wet terminals of the battarys and not static what voltage where the trams/trolleybuses?????? as in some cases they used the same wire

[mr B]

Not quite sure of the volts, 440 ? Once caught you soon learnt to board and jump off with out touching the white plastic coated handrail's. When Teesside Municipal Transport put in the diversion around the over bridge on Middlesbrough Road (over the disused rail branch to Eston station ) late 1960's, then in 1971/2 when they ripped out the wirring the diversion wire posts where left in, these stand to day fitted with new street lights and come under listed buildings.

Mr B ... Native Slaggy Islander.

[third-rail]

Not quite sure of the volts, 440 ? Once caught you soon learnt to board and jump off with out touching the white plastic coated handrail's. When Teesside Municipal Transport put in the diversion around the over bridge on Middlesbrough Road (over the disused rail branch to Eston station ) late 1960's, then in 1971/2 when they ripped out the wirring the diversion wire posts where left in, these stand to day fitted with new street lights and come under listed buildings.

Mr B ... Native Slaggy Islander.

did a bit of googling , the wordwide standard and british appears to be 550v dc the same as tramcars which the trolleys are classed as and come under the same regulations.there is at least one system runs on 1000v and few on less than the standard

[52D]

Tramway museum at Crich runs at 600vdc if you remember a while ago i suggested running the NER ES1 on that line.

[mr B]

Trollys aside for now?...Thornaby depot, BRCW Bo Bo class 33's delivered to 51L because of late deliveries with Class 24's, when our Darlington Sulzers turned up all the 33's headed south, single ticket !

Darlington built 24's & 25's put in some hard work around the Teesside area, to be superseeded with the larger EE type 3's (class 33).

Mr B .

[James Brodie]

The photo of 67777 at Mbro West shews her standing at the excursion platform on the goods lines so presume this was a football special, the stock dosn't appear to be the Gresley smooth sided articulated units which used to be eight on.
Jim Brodie.

[stembok]

The BRC&W Type 2s allocated to Thornaby 51L were later Class 27s not 33s. They were D5370-78 and went to Thornaby around about late 1961. They were not fitted with train heating boilers and were often used in pairs on the steel trains to York and the south.

[booklad]

there are some interesting mboro and east cleveland photos on this website:
http://ecol.org.uk/loftus/

[mr B]

The Kodak 127 camera that Mr B used durring the 1950's, we all get things wrong now and again, still it would be nice to view the critic's photo's on the Saltburn line should they have any or are old enough to have witnessed the period in the photo's.

Saltburn Railtours excursion will be heading for Snowdonia on Fri 18 June returning Mon 21 June.

Mr B

[James Brodie]

class 24s 25s and 27s
5151to 75 1250hp was the type two allocation all brand new from Dtn works.
We used these on all types of traffic. for boiler jobs we had some 1160hp class 24s 5109 5110 5113 and so on sometimes we had 5149 and 50.
The Birmingham type tws were the 1250hp version and again no boiler. lovely riding engine.
The EE type threes with Clayton boilers again used on all types of work and the type fours EE version, we never did get the Sulzer four engines D166 to 193 but then built up a fleet of Hawkers 2750hp mainly for main line work freightliners etc. I have seen Thby men working a minerall turn with a type four and main line men strggling with a type two on a heavy parcels turn.Claytons and EE 1000hp engines came along as well.
Jim Brodie
incidently I went to school(borstal) at claggy foot.

[mr B]

Hi JB, am I right in thinking some Claytons where built in Thornaby/Stockton, Hawthorn-Lesslie ?
Church Lane crossing was out of action for road traffic again on Sunday afternoon (23rd), barriers stuck , copper on duty!

Mr B ..

[stembok]

The Clayton Type 1s were built by Clayton Engineering of Derbyshire with some later batches contracted to Beyer Peacock, Manchester. The engines built at Stockton 1958-59 may have been the Metropolitan-Vickers Type 2 1,200 hp Co-Bos D5700-5719. Originally based at Derby they ended their lives in West Cumberland C1969, another unsuccessful design. The Metro-Vick factory on Yarm Road Stockton, near Bowesfield Junction, later became -early 1960s - British Visqueen making plastic sacks for I C I. The Co-Bos main claim to fame was working -in their early days- the 'Condor' night fast freight between Glasgow and London via the Midland route.