NYMR LNER Gala 2008
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Re: NYMR LNER Gala 2008
....a good idea for techique & h-exclusion, chaz: Very nicely captured.
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Re: NYMR LNER Gala 2008
Thanks for the comment StevieG,
The next snap is of the J15, seen at Levisham. I do like signals, and they make useful "frames" for photographs.
Chaz
The next snap is of the J15, seen at Levisham. I do like signals, and they make useful "frames" for photographs.
Chaz
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Here's a detail of part of the J15.
Chaz
OK, modellers, this is a clean engine! A useful reference, just look at the horizontal surface (the footplate) and imagine running your finger along it. Any steam loco that has done some work will have similar dirt. Chaz
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I found it quite difficult to photograph the K1. It was running the service to Whitby.
Chaz
I shot this picture over the fence from the NYMR platform at Grosmont. There were so many people on the platforms a good picture was almost impossible and I had to settle for detail shots.Chaz
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Re cleanliness the K1 is cleaner than i can ever remember them in service.
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Re comments on framing using signals, I thought this (and one taken a few seconds earlier) would have been good shots, but for all the people... I really wanted another one a few feet further back, showing more on the right, but two large individuals in shell suits put paid to that idea...
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Chaz, I guess you had better weather than I, I had to go for atmospheric shots taken from underneath an umbrella... [img] [/img]
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Me too. I remember spending a day at Broxbourne, trainspotting with my Dad. Every goods train had a K1 on the front, and none of them looked like this.... Somebody spent a long time getting it this clean!52D wrote:Re cleanliness the K1 is cleaner than i can ever remember them in service.
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Excellent photos gentlemen-all being well i am upgrading in the next few weeks,and then i'll put a few on too.Have to go some to match you guys though.Lovely shot of GRESLEY AP,even with the people on.Proves the railway's alive!Keep the shots coming guys-really appreciated.
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Re: NYMR LNER Gala 2008
Here's another one of mine, from the second Sunday of the event. 60009 at Water Ark with the 9.30 ex Grosmont.
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OK, another snap of No. 7 for you.
Chaz
Bears out what I said about this shade of blue not photographing too well in bright sunlight. My digital Nikon does sometimes do strange things to blue. But then various film stocks were better on some colours than others, as I recall. Sir Nigel looks a better colour in your picture, AP, but then yours was taken in overcast conditions. Note - top of the streamline casing starting to get sooty. The loco is quite stunningly clean in your photo.Chaz
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Chaz
On the last day of steam on the Alnwick branch 3 K1s and a 9F loaned by consett for the day were thouroghly cleaned via the oily rag method but none of them were anything like the pristine condition that these ex works and bulled to bits locos look like today. They were more like the used but clean look of some of the V2s on the green arrow thread.
Thats how i like them and prefer to remember them. I suppose its a personal preference but i wouldnt have it any other way.
There has been cases in preservation when locos have actually been weathered i think David Shephards 9f was one and i think a WD might have been another. Also im sure at least one owner of a freight loco has said he doesnt want the cleaning overdone.
On the last day of steam on the Alnwick branch 3 K1s and a 9F loaned by consett for the day were thouroghly cleaned via the oily rag method but none of them were anything like the pristine condition that these ex works and bulled to bits locos look like today. They were more like the used but clean look of some of the V2s on the green arrow thread.
Thats how i like them and prefer to remember them. I suppose its a personal preference but i wouldnt have it any other way.
There has been cases in preservation when locos have actually been weathered i think David Shephards 9f was one and i think a WD might have been another. Also im sure at least one owner of a freight loco has said he doesnt want the cleaning overdone.
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Re: NYMR LNER Gala 2008
52D, you are quite right about the accumulation of dirt and what the result of cleaning it off produced.
However there are numerous other aspects of preserved railways that jar. An A4 running tender first with 5 or 6 coaches on a single track at 25mph looks ludicrous. But we have to face facts, the modern world leaves us little space for steam and we have to settle for what we can get.
Should the owners of Bittern, which carries a 52A shed plate, stop cleaning it completely? I think we have to accept that when a team spend years and much effort and money restoring a steam loco it must be up to them what livery they paint it in, and how clean they keep it.
I would love to be able to stand at the lineside and see a typically grubby 9F roll past with a long goods or mineral train. It isn't going to happen. One must fall back on the picture books.
Chaz
However there are numerous other aspects of preserved railways that jar. An A4 running tender first with 5 or 6 coaches on a single track at 25mph looks ludicrous. But we have to face facts, the modern world leaves us little space for steam and we have to settle for what we can get.
Should the owners of Bittern, which carries a 52A shed plate, stop cleaning it completely? I think we have to accept that when a team spend years and much effort and money restoring a steam loco it must be up to them what livery they paint it in, and how clean they keep it.
I would love to be able to stand at the lineside and see a typically grubby 9F roll past with a long goods or mineral train. It isn't going to happen. One must fall back on the picture books.
Chaz
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Re: NYMR LNER Gala 2008
Re Sir Nigel's colour, I have just had a look through some of my photos and attach one I did of SNG at Levisham - facing the wrong way I'm afraid, but in bright sunlight...
For the record, the frame was taken using a Canon SLR in Sports mode, 1/500 at 5.6 on Fuji Reala 100 film.
Now my screen is probably not set up very accurately re Gamma, and the print (produced by someone who I (and many pro photographers) consider to be very good) is a little darker and 'richer' than what I see on my screen, but I would have said it was a decent representation of SNG's colour. What do you think? For the record, the frame was taken using a Canon SLR in Sports mode, 1/500 at 5.6 on Fuji Reala 100 film.
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Hi, AP, Yes I agree, the colour of No 7 is much closer to correct in your shot. I think the crucial difference between our two pictures is that yours is shot on film, mine is digital. Before anybody starts running with it, this is not intended as a rant against digital photography. Having made the change I would not go back to film, but I do acknowledge that digital photography has its drawbacks.
Now back to the gala.... No 9 brings the Pullmans into Levisham. There was a fellow photographer in this picture but I expunged him (it didn't hurt!). I didn't want to get rid of the crew member as he gives the picture interest.
Chaz
Now back to the gala.... No 9 brings the Pullmans into Levisham. There was a fellow photographer in this picture but I expunged him (it didn't hurt!). I didn't want to get rid of the crew member as he gives the picture interest.
Chaz
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G'Day Gents
Another series of wonderful photos, the only two times I managed to get to the NYMR they had 'Vera Lynn' roaring up and down in the pouring rain, I spent more time trying to keep the video camera dry, the other time it was nice and sunny, they had the 4MT 2-6-4T chuffing around, again I think I only had the video camera with me.
manna
PS you can't see the dent in the A4 where you expunged the poor guy
Another series of wonderful photos, the only two times I managed to get to the NYMR they had 'Vera Lynn' roaring up and down in the pouring rain, I spent more time trying to keep the video camera dry, the other time it was nice and sunny, they had the 4MT 2-6-4T chuffing around, again I think I only had the video camera with me.
manna
PS you can't see the dent in the A4 where you expunged the poor guy
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