Tees Metro

[52A]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8164411.stm

It's all happening today!

[redtoon1892]

Its soundbyte time for railway schemes after years of neglect and mismanagement why ? where is all this cash coming from one may ask ? call me Mr Cynical but it looks to me like an incoming Govt will be lumbered with all Zanuliebores grandiose schemes as they know fine well they wont be in office.
Not railway but everybit as important, why isnt the A1 North of Newcastle being dualled if there is so much cash floating about ?.

Rant over.

[Bill Bedford]

Its soundbyte time for railway schemes after years of neglect and mismanagement why ? where is all this cash coming from one may ask ? call me Mr Cynical but it looks to me like an incoming Govt will be lumbered with all Zanuliebores grandiose schemes as they know fine well they wont be in office.
Not railway but everybit as important, why isnt the A1 North of Newcastle being dualled if there is so much cash floating about ?.

Any incoming government with at least a passing understanding of Keynes will know that they either have to spend money on capital programs like this or risk being the government that changed a recession into a long running depression.

[richard]

Opinions (here in the US at least) of Keynes say more about the politics of the person with the opinion rather than Keynes. A lot of people here think he was very wrong - of course most of them had a different opinion when Bush was in power and was dressing tax cuts as Keynsian stimulus!

An interesting footnote: Keynes thought FDR was doing things wrong and was regularly writing angry letters to him...


Richard

[stembok]

Yes, it must be galling for the neocon archdisciples of the free market to see US banks, the mighty GM and mortgage companies needing to be bailed out by the US taxpayer, due to their - and to be fair our - greed and rapacity - and yet they have the nerve to label Europeans as socialists - as if we ever were- LOL. Even some of the economic neanderthals pre-war in the 1930s eventually saw the need for pump priming and several of the A4s were constructed taking advantage of 'soft' government loans in addition to various infrastructure improvements.

[Bryan]

Last year I was on the NELPG rail tour that was meant to go Darlington - Newcastle - Hartlepool - Middlesborough.
However on the day we had to go Newcastle - Hartlepool the long way round via Stockton
because the operators of the METRO were worried, I believe, about the effect of a Steam loco exhaust on the insulators.
Will the same situation develop on the TEES metro proposed routes?
Will it affect locos running to the NYMR?

[52A]

Something to ruminate on.....how are the Metro trains going to get into Bank Top?

[52D]

I hope not the same way as NER 2115.

[52A]

Very true! But I have it on good authority that 1600DC and 25000AC don't get on very well together!

I suppose they could take a run at it and drop the Pans.

[52D]

Dont the Dutch have dual voltage locos or am i imagining things. I can remember seeing the EM1s working in Amsterdam and know they used 1500vdc but seem to remember newer locos could work over the German border on 25Kvac.

[stembok]

Phase 1 of the Teesside Metro Plan for provisional completion in 2013 envisages some £10 million poundsworth of work at Darlington and apparently the provision of separate platforms on the east side of the ECML -no doubt to physically separate the two electrical systems.When the new Stockton link road was built a couple of years ago a second and so far unused tunnel was constructed - for the Metro? - where the new road crosses the railway at Bowesfield and there is still a bridge span -unused - in situ over the River Tees at the same spot, which formerly carried the goods lines.

[52A]

Yes I guess that will be the solution, I think there is plenty of room on the up side. It will also remove the problem of conflicting moves at the junction.