Scotch Goods

This forum is for the discussion of the LNER, its constituent companies, and their histories.

Moderators: 52D, Tom F, Rlangham, Atlantic 3279, Blink Bonny, Saint Johnstoun, richard

jwealleans
LNER A4 4-6-2 'Streak'
Posts: 4303
Joined: Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:46 am

Re: Scotch Goods

Post by jwealleans »

Well, don't want to piss on your chips too much but you won't see an A4 or even an A3 on there before the War. In 1937 the V2s were just starting to take over. Initially 4771 was stationed at Top Shed to work as far as Peterborough, 4772 at Peterborough to work to (I think) York and 4774 at York to work further north. As more became available at these sheds then they'd have been added to that link. Absent a V2 you'd have seen a K3, those having been the main motve power until the V2s arrived. A4s were still being built and deployed to top link services and A3s were only just cascading down the pecking order of Areas and workings. Only when there were a raft of A1s and A2s available would they have been available for this service.

In terms of stock, contemporary photographs usually show a cut of containers leading, then mainly vans and the odd sheeted open. There was almost always an ex-NER CCT in the rake, sometimes more than one. The train collected fruit traffic at Sandy in season, so north of there you'd have fruit vans and maybe a sheeted open leading. Mainly LNER vans but not exclusively. There's a picture on Ebay right now (seller 'deva-bob') showing the sort of thing I mean. There are two of those NER CCTs in that photo.
User avatar
NZRedBaron
GNSR D40 4-4-0
Posts: 202
Joined: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:58 am

Re: Scotch Goods

Post by NZRedBaron »

Fair enough; but then again, Rule One of model railways applies as well.

Given that post-war but pre-Nationalisation A4's are rare on the ground unless you modify them, too.
Danby Wiske
GCR D11 4-4-0 'Improved Director'
Posts: 413
Joined: Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:09 am

Re: Scotch Goods

Post by Danby Wiske »

I'd always assumed the Scotch Goods was made up of these: :wink:
GrainWagon.jpg
GrainWagon.jpg (73.33 KiB) Viewed 6646 times
jwealleans
LNER A4 4-6-2 'Streak'
Posts: 4303
Joined: Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:46 am

Re: Scotch Goods

Post by jwealleans »

Only after the sun was below the yardarm, surely?
Hatfield Shed
LNER A4 4-6-2 'Streak'
Posts: 1728
Joined: Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:34 pm

Re: Scotch Goods

Post by Hatfield Shed »

Danby Wiske wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 11:59 am I'd always assumed the Scotch Goods was made up of these: :wink:
Ho ho ho. Insofar as it has long been the case that way insufficient barley is grown in Scotland to produce sufficient water of life to satisfy demand, then (whisper it) English barley has to be used. But this originates well to the North of London, and is not significantly perishable so unlikely to be added to an express freight service intended for high value manufactures and rapidly perishable agricultural produce. But I think you knew all this. 8)

Side note. I believe from a few distillery tours over the years, that it is only a few selected named Barley varieties that are considered worthy of the honour of metamorphosing into the splendid single malt whiskies.
52A
LNER V2 2-6-2 'Green Arrow'
Posts: 1107
Joined: Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:50 am

Re: Scotch Goods

Post by 52A »

There were 2 trains conveying block loads of barley from East Anglia to various destinations on Speyside finally terminating at Burghead. They were 6S40 daily and 6S43 as required. How does it get there now, anyone know?
Danby Wiske
GCR D11 4-4-0 'Improved Director'
Posts: 413
Joined: Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:09 am

Re: Scotch Goods

Post by Danby Wiske »

Hatfield Shed wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 1:34 pm Insofar as it has long been the case that way insufficient barley is grown in Scotland to produce sufficient water of life to satisfy demand, then (whisper it) English barley has to be used.
Aha! So now we know the real reason why the Scots didn't vote for independence. They're waiting until they've achieved self-sufficiency before they close the border...
Dave S
NBR D34 4-4-0 'Glen'
Posts: 257
Joined: Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:46 pm

Re: Scotch Goods

Post by Dave S »

Well the Scotch Goods picked up at Sandy and the Barley from there had been heading to Highland distillery for quite some time although it went by a difference service.
In the 70's it moved over to the 'Polybulks' with several at a time being loaded and shunted with a tractor.
User avatar
strang steel
LNER A4 4-6-2 'Streak'
Posts: 2363
Joined: Tue May 18, 2010 3:54 pm
Location: From 40F to near 82A via 88C

Re: Scotch Goods

Post by strang steel »

I have seen a Deltic on 4S04 at Grantham in the 1966/7 era. How far the locos travelled before being changed I don't know. I wonder if it was a throwback to early ER days, when an A4 would often be rostered for that service, and certain drivers would try to catch up with the passenger train in front.
John.

My spotting log website is at https://spottinglogs.co.uk/spotting-rec ... s-70s-80s/

And my spotters' b&w photo site is at http://spottinglogs.blog
Post Reply