Photo taken beween Doncaster and York in 1961 - but where?

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Photo taken beween Doncaster and York in 1961 - but where?

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The attached picture was taken on the 'Don-Yor-Dar Flyer' railtour with MR No.1000 on Sunday 17th September 1961. I'm trying to identify the location. Can anyone advise, please?

Given the sequence of the shots on the film it was taken on the ECML northbound, after leaving Doncaster station and before arrival at York. So it's either the northern outskirts of Doncaster, the southern approach to York - or somewhere in between! But it's possible it could be elsewhere.

I've attached both a full frame view at low resolution and an enlargement of the central section. I'd be interested to know the location, including the name of the signal box, the identity of the works premises visible on both sides of the line, and the function of the bridge structure, which seems to be associated with the industrial activity. Also, what/whose are the rather garishly green-painted railway vehicles on the right, behind the tree (which looks as if it could have been planted to stop a runaway!!)? Are they on a works system?

All suggestions very gratefully received.
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Re: Photo taken beween Doncaster and York in 1961 - but where?

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54JCC wrote:The attached picture was taken on the 'Don-Yor-Dar Flyer' railtour with MR No.1000 on Sunday 17th September 1961. I'm trying to identify the location. Can anyone advise, please?

Given the sequence of the shots on the film it was taken on the ECML northbound, after leaving Doncaster station and before arrival at York. So it's either the northern outskirts of Doncaster, the southern approach to York - or somewhere in between! But it's possible it could be elsewhere.

I've attached both a full frame view at low resolution and an enlargement of the central section. I'd be interested to know the location, including the name of the signal box, the identity of the works premises visible on both sides of the line, and the function of the bridge structure, which seems to be associated with the industrial activity. Also, what/whose are the rather garishly green-painted railway vehicles on the right, behind the tree (which looks as if it could have been planted to stop a runaway!!)? Are they on a works system?

All suggestions very gratefully received.

the approach to selby was on a curve if i remember right as there was a large white building on the left traveling north,[ british oil and cake mills],and does not resemble york [no large buildings]
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Re: Photo taken beween Doncaster and York in 1961 - but where?

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The train has just passed through Selby station , over the swing bridge spanning the river Ouse just to the north of the station and is now on the slight falling incline entering the large BOCM complex which was mainly on the left hand side of the tracks.To the north of the complex at Barlby junction the tracks diverged to Hull,Bridlington and York.The latter two no longer exist.
Selby always had on its allocation Y1 and Y3 sentinals(affectionately known locally as coffee pots)for shunting the BOCM because of the very tight curves.I never ever saw them moving back south through the station hauling waggons to the main goods yards-does anyone know what the pulling power of these locos was.These days most of the BOCM is now derelict and will no doubt end up for housing/retail park
Hope this is of interest

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Many thanks 50C and third-rail. That's brilliant. I've just been onto multimap, and actually the 'modern day' aerial photo view on there is still very recognisable as the location of the picture. The structure bridging the line is on the photo - presumably a conveyor to loading plant on the up side - and you can even pick out the traces of the tracks 'over the fence' that appear on the right of the photo beyond the trees. Slightly to the east there appears to be a row of 8 wagons on these tracks, near to some outlying buildings. From what you say it will all be unrecognisable before much longer.

If you're interested this should take you to the aerial shot: http://www.multimap.com/maps/?qs=Selby& ... %20YO8%204

Thanks again.
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thought i regognised the the site ,last time i was through selby would be in the 60s.

having been to doncaster one day on the return trip to newcastle the train failed at ferryhill we stood for ages, until another scottish bound train buffered up at the rear and pushed our and its train several miles till it got to a convienent crossover where another diesel was coupled on and the train split ,think the second loco was a deltic [no bi directional thos days]
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54JCC wrote:Many thanks 50C and third-rail. That's brilliant. I've just been onto multimap, and actually the 'modern day' aerial photo view on there is still very recognisable as the location of the picture. The structure bridging the line is on the photo - presumably a conveyor to loading plant on the up side - and you can even pick out the traces of the tracks 'over the fence' that appear on the right of the photo beyong the trees. Slightly to the east there appears to be a row of 8 wagons on these tracks, near to some outlying buildings. From what you say it will all be unrecognisable before much longer.

If you're interested this should take you to the aerial shot: http://www.multimap.com/maps/?qs=Selby& ... %20YO8%204

Thanks again.
Try Google maps the quality is better! There are 11 wagons on their picture.
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Re: Photo taken beween Doncaster and York in 1961 - but where?

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There are 11 wagons on their picture
These were probably the hoppers used on the internal siding propelled back and forth by a UNIMOG R/Rail shunter.
Wagons and UNIMOG and track offerred for sale about 4 years ago. When the unit of BOCM they worked for shut down.
Wagons were just about ready for scrap on site being run with wooden blocks in the axleboxes and liberally dosed in oil.
The UNIMOG loked like a good prospect for resale, but I don't know what happenned to it.
There were also 2 small Shunt units but both in a poor state. 1 used to be stored by the oil tanks by gate 4 to BOCM but has since disappeared.
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