York carriage plate : June 1923

[92227]

Does anybody know which stock this plate would have come off? The number 174 J has been chiselled off at some time, plate dated June 1923
Thanks Ian

[JASd17]

East Coast Diagram 64B Sleeper First.

John

[92227]

John, many thanks for the quick response. I was given the plate by somebody who worked at York carriage works in the late eighties and I have always wondered what it came off. Could you recommend here I could find a picture of such vehicles?
Thanks Ian

[JASd17]

The NRM have a negative of 159J of the same diagram.

A copy of which can be seen in Michael Harris's GNR and ECJS Carriages from 1905 book, Oakwood Press.

It is interesting that LNER Carriage researcher Chris Bishop had a build date of July 1923 for 174J.

John

[92227]

John

Again thanks for this additional information, I will keep a look out for the book.

With respect to the date, maybe my plate is a 'scrapped plate', the numbers chiselled of once it was realised the month of output was incorrect. If so it did well to survive 'under a bench somewhere' for sixty odd years and the scrap drives of WW2!

Ian

[JASd17]

The carriage was quickly renumbered, that is the more likely explanation.

A PM about the photo might be in order.

John

[Trestrol]

ECJS carriages always had a number plate mounted on the ends. On the bufferbeam if I remember correctly (but it may be the ends) Not seen an LNER one before.

[92227]

These photos were prints used on a display board at ABB York works during the 1980s which showed some of the history of the site. Coincidentally to the thread they show a first class sleeping car being lifted in the repair shop at York I presume.