Howlden Brake Vehicle Roof Struts?

[Dave]

Thank you JC always happy to help with getting info to further the knowledge base.

[2512silverfox]

Now had a chance to look back at the notes taken in 1975. The struts appeared to be an original fitting unlike the lamps and vents. We did find traces of the original buff/red oxide roof colouring in the corners of the skylights. The later gas supply pipes were screwed through the canvas into the roof boards.

The work was done at York, so I was only able to visit two or three times during the restoration. The vehicle was however treated to the full number of coats of varnish etc., and cost more in gold leaf than the vehicle cost when new!

[john coffin]

Would still like to see copies of the KX photos showing the rooves of various Howlden carriages please?

These are the kind of details that sadly have been lost in the mists of time, but were probably the result of considerable
work by various skilled craftsmen, whose work was so "normal" it wasn't recorded.

Paul

[MikeTrice]

We did find traces of the original buff/red oxide roof colouring in the corners of the skylights.

Were there two distinct shades, or the same shade called by either name? Interestingly some of the official photos show the roof with imitation teak graining. I have also seen reference to the teak colour being extended 1foot above the cornice with the rest of the roof white, but in this instance have no photographic collaboration.

[Seagull]

Red oxide was made with iron oxide, effectively rust, so the colour would vary depending on the source of the oxide.
The colour could vary from dark red/brown through red to a dark yellow colour.

Alan

[MikeTrice]

Interestingly some of the official photos show the roof with imitation teak graining. I have also seen reference to the teak colour being extended 1foot above the cornice with the rest of the roof white, but in this instance have no photographic collaboration.

OK correction to the above. The reference mentioned about actual states that the imitation teak graining is extended 20" above the cornice with the rest of the roof white.