Lamp codes

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Further to my earlier post on the model page ,has anyone got any information on lamp codes used on the rear of fitted goods trains.Any help will be useful.Ron

[Blink Bonny]

Ay up, Ron.

All trains carried a tail lamp, 2 on the streamliners.

Unfitted goods trains had 2 side lamps, one on each side, showing a red light to the rear and a white light to the front. Fully fitted goods trains just the one in the centre.

[2502]

Many thanks Ron.

[WTTReprinter]

Just one point about unfitted trains, they showed three tail lights, one centre and one on each post of the guards brake showing white front and red rear as stated.
However, if placed in a loop or siding, or running on a slow or goods line, the lamp nearest the adjacent main line would be changed to white front and rear as well. (I had to dig deep into the grey matter to remember that! - Rule 121)

[1H was 2E]

However, if placed in a loop or siding, or running on a slow or goods line, the lamp nearest the adjacent main line would be changed to white front and rear as well. (I had to dig deep into the grey matter to remember that! - Rule 121)

Rule 121 in LNER days (source; the General Appendices, Scottish and Southern, 1.11.47) had an addition to this,"... or, if swivelling lamp irons are provided, the lamp on the iron nearest the Main line must be swung inwards, so that no red light is exhibited to the rear from this lamp".

Also, referred to earlier; instruction in same sources states, " Guards must extinguish the side lights of their brake vans after arrival in Reception Linea at Marshalling Yards, but the tail lamp must (subject to caveats) be left alight". Note, perhaps pedantically, that the light is extinguished, not the lamp removed.

I also think that drawings of older brake vans show a sidelight over the ducket, rather than on the corner post as was the practice in recent times; if I am right, does anyone know when they were moved. I also seem to recall sidelight over the duckets of passenger brake vans suggesting that there was a time (after the adoption of continuous brakes) when passenger trains had sidelights. I would suggest that this, if true, suggests that fully fitted goods trains would also have had side lights in the past.

[2502]

Thganks again all, most useful,Ron.