Atlantic's works: Portable layout - Scenic details next

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Having frequently been impressed, not to say daunted, by your semi-finished and finished product, that close-up of the early-stage "Lord President" cheered me up no end -- even GK's work can look a bit untidy at this stage in the proceedings. That's not a criticism, by the way -- its a "thank you" for lending some heart to a neophyte. (Not that I shall be taking a scalpel to a P2 in the foreseeable future....).


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Glad you have found encouragement. You should have seen it an hour before I took the picture, when I'd decided that there was an unwanted bulge in the surface layer of plastic and had ripped same off the model ready for trimming, smoothing and re-application! :lol:
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Graeme - I have cast several resin copies of my white metal P2 streamlined chimney if that would be of interest? Happy to donate one to the cause.

I do like your conversions very much and I'm delighted to see a bugatti nosed variant join the Earl.
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Most impressive and made to look so simple as always!
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The chimney sounds a good offer Simon. Yes please! It will be interesting to see how it fits, how it looks and how it compares to drawings.
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Atlantic 3279 wrote:The chimney sounds a good offer Simon. Yes please! It will be interesting to see how it fits, how it looks and how it compares to drawings.
In which case I will get the mould out tomorrow night and will cast you a couple to send - I think your address is the same as previous so I'll try to pop them in the post on Saturday. From what I can see, they match up to the Isinglass drawings reasonably well.
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Tidier now:
STA79681 tidier, small.jpg
STA79681 tidier, small bw.jpg
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Ay up!

Now, I wonder where that nose has come from?

Gives me an idea!
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Blink Bonny wrote:Ay up!

Now, I wonder where that nose has come from?
Who nose................... :roll:
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Another splendid conversion on the cards. It does beg the question, how did Thompson get authority from the LNER board or the Railway Executive to rebuild them?
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Flying Fox 34F wrote:Another splendid conversion on the cards. It does beg the question, how did Thompson get authority from the LNER board or the Railway Executive to rebuild them?
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Much writing and discussion on this. Major arguments seem to have been that failures on the road were increasingly problematic in wartime conditions. This also seems to have been one reason why ET was not in favour of transferring them south. (Although it wouldn't have been his decision would it?)
A broken crank axle at one of the ECML bottlenecks would have been very bothersome, but perhaps with Doncaster maintenance rather than Cowlairs that wouldn't have happened.)

(Just to make my views quite clear - I think the decision to re-build was not one of ET's better ones!)

I do like the story (I think in one of Peter Townend's books) of the Shedmaster at Haymarket sending P2s south to Newcastle at night 'when no one could see'!!!!!
They could pull anything up Cockburnspath when a Pacific would have had to be double-headed.

I'm following this and the other P2 threads with interest. I do so want a Bugatti-nosed, double Kylchap, P2 in green. Do you suppose any of them got into County Durham in that condition?
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Post by Mercator II »

Now that is a good looking conversion Graeme, which now begs the question, will you be able to make it into a sell-able part as per the W1 cab extension, i.e a plug in piece so us lesser mortals can follow in your footsteps

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G'day all

Exactly DRMD
I do like the story (I think in one of Peter Townend's books) of the Shedmaster at Haymarket sending P2s south to Newcastle at night 'when no one could see'!!!!!
They could pull anything up Cockburnspath when a Pacific would have had to be double-headed.

Whilst not as fast as the A4, they could haul anything uphill. A driver remarked that if a P2 was the train loco, he never bothered to count the coaches.

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Although this is very old ground, informed opinion seems to be moving in the direction that Norman McKillop was a vocal minority in his criticisms of the P2s, that they were not used in the most economic or even sensible way due to continued observance of established working practice and there was almost outright revolt in the SSA when they were called to Doncaster for rebuilding.

None of which detracts from the quality of what Graeme is doing, nor should it spark that same debate again in this thread.
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Point taken.
New thread for this discussion ....here....
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