Computer Coloured Monochrome

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Re: Computer Coloured Monochrome

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Black and white is better than nothing, especially when the subject is interesting but it can't compare with colour when the scene offers colourful contrast. This is another John Robertson photograph taken at Haymarket early in 1952, courtesy of The Transport Treasury, with the camera-shy 60035 centre stage. The A3 is in brunswick green but pacifics to left and right are both carrying BR blue livery. That's how they were in the viewfinder but the b/w image just doesn't deliver the goods -one is left to imagine the scene. The sad fact is that very few genuine colour photos were taken in early BR days, especially in the short-lived BR blue era. Perhaps CCM has something to offer here.
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Hi
I agree the colour photo does it for me.
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Every negative has its own challenges. (Some are so challenging that they are still in the queue and likely to remain there.) Buffer beams are often tricky for a variety of reasons. Here's an interesting example, again from The Transport Treasury's archive.

The B12s active on the GNoS received LNER green post war including 61507 photographed (I believe) at Kittybrewster in very grubby condition. The red paint used by Inverurie for this engine's buffer beam has not fared well and much of it seems to be missing. Fortunately the razor sharp negative gives a very clear picture and it's possible to see where flakes of paint still remain. These can be distinguished by their relative lightness in the negative image.

(Can anyone confirm that the lettering on the buffer beam was done in white?)
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Re: Computer Coloured Monochrome

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This one works very well, not least, I think, because there was enough of the sky on the original for you to be able to do something with.

However, the valance should be black, lined red - see 'The Big Four in Colour 1935-50' by David Jenkinson, pp63-64. In principle, the wheels should be green, but given the overall condition of the engine, you might be better off leaving them as they are.

White is correct for the class & shed allocation.

Hope this helps

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Re: Computer Coloured Monochrome

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Thanks for this information. Helpful comments such as this are much appreciated, as it is usually not difficult to make alterations.

The valance has been painted black and lined with red and the green wheels coated liberally in oily grime.

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Re: Computer Coloured Monochrome

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Pictures that could never have been taken in colour are probably the most suitable subjects for this treatment given the time and work involved.

The Raven pacifics have always had a fascination for me as there were so few of them and they had such a short existence. Pictures of them are scarce and good sharp photos even more so. The Transport Treasury has been able to come up with this fine study of 2402 City of York taken at an unidentified shed. Always in the shadow of Gresley's A1s they were cared for and kept in presentable condition by the North Eastern men as seen here.
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Could be Heaton coal stage, I will compare the background with a pic I have of Velocity at said stage.
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Doesn't she look good, bet they rode as good as the B 16s
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Enclosed Velocity pic it does appear to match the background I wish it had been taken further back.
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Re: Computer Coloured Monochrome

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I'm not sure they do match in detail, George, unless you accept that there have been some alterations in the interval.
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Re: Computer Coloured Monochrome

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Good morning all
I like the pic of the A2.

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BTW, It seems JW is like Kilroy. I usually rise at 6am and logging-on find that JW has already posted comments. Perhaps the NE is in a different time-zone.
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Hi all
I worked at Heaton and there was no sunken line ,there was one road to the fire pits and one road back to the shed,I don't think it was Heaton.
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Re: Computer Coloured Monochrome

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I have a feeling it's York.... with number on the A2s tender, it is pre 1930, and York had sunken ash roads until WW2, Plus York's large coaling cenotaph wasn't built until the early 1930's. I think York had a conventional coaling stage like the one pictured prior to the cenotaph being built.
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I agree with 2750, York shed.

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Re: Computer Coloured Monochrome

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G'Day Gents

Of the two coal stages, one is timber the other is brick......unless it was rebuilt !!

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