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Ferrocarril Central Argentino 12L class
Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 8:52 am
by Cuddie Headrigg
Does anyone have any information on the Ferrocarril Central Argentino 12L class (later reclassed PS11) three cylinder 4-6-2 'Pacific' (Armstrong Whitworth, 1930). A friend in Australia sent me a picture of #1105(attached) and advised one of the 20 established a South American speed record on the Retiro- Rosario corridor of 2 hours 50 minutes, averaging 105 kph. One still survives and awaiting preservation. Like the folding buffers!
Re: Ferrocarril Central Argentino 12L class
Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:13 am
by 2002EarlMarischal
An overseas loco I like the look of! Round topped firebox helps. Not too cluttered either! Why the folding buffers?
Re: Ferrocarril Central Argentino 12L class
Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:04 pm
by Stirling O
I'm no expert but I would have thought that with a cowcatcher fitted they would be superfluous. Remove the cowcatcher and they fold down for normal use. Anyone else got any ideas?
Dave
Re: Ferrocarril Central Argentino 12L class
Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:11 pm
by richard
Yes I would have thought they were superfluous with the cowcatcher, but perhaps they also enabled use with American-style knuckle couplers?
Re: Ferrocarril Central Argentino 12L class
Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:22 pm
by 52D
Im sure I have seen a pic of these locos being loaded in the UK before arriving in South America. I will have a root round to see if I can locate it.
Re: Ferrocarril Central Argentino 12L class
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:39 am
by Bryan
Did the use of the cowcatcher impede the buffers?
A case of use one or the other but not both.
If so then is the cowcatcher easily detachable?
Or is use of a turntable essential?
Re: Ferrocarril Central Argentino 12L class
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:30 am
by Cuddie Headrigg
I would imagine that buffers were needed when working multiple as a coupling is provided and the cow-catcher would fit under the tender overhang - but why hinged? The cow-catcher would be exactly that - for cattle and not sheep or smaller livestock, as in Australia, my friend postulates. I doubt it was easily removed and looks a quite substantial, structural entity!
Re: Ferrocarril Central Argentino 12L class
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:31 pm
by Blink Bonny
Ay up!
That front end has a pleasing Robinson look to it. Handsome loco.
Re: Ferrocarril Central Argentino 12L class
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:32 pm
by Solario
It looks as if it may have poppet valves - any comment from the experts?
Re: Ferrocarril Central Argentino 12L class
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:07 pm
by Cuddie Headrigg
They were known locally as 'Caprotti's' for their valve gear.