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Is this Longmoor?

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:37 pm
by Bryan
I found this photo elsewhere and a number of questions have been asked.
http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/attachment.ph ... 1364037993

Is this Longmoor?
What is the Loco?
Probable contractors loco but what type etc
Possible date period?
I think post WW1 and an Auction sale.
Wagon types?
Anything else you can comment on?
2ft gauge prefab track panels etc

Re: Is this Longmoor?

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:05 pm
by richard
You need an account to see the image?

Re: Is this Longmoor?

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:57 pm
by StevieG
richard wrote:You need an account to see the image?
Certainly looks like one has to somehow register to do so.

Re: Is this Longmoor?

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:14 pm
by Bryan
Did not realise that.

Re: Is this Longmoor?

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:17 pm
by Bryan
I have copied and pasted the photo
Same questions apply.

Re: Is this Longmoor?

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:35 pm
by 65447
Although Longmoor Camp was set up in 1903 and the railway system developed thereafter, it would not have been likely to serve as a concentration point for troops, guns and munitions. The wagons are pre-grouping and it is much more likely to be somewhere such as Richborough, where a port with extensive barracks for troops in transit was constructed for the express purpose of loading train ferries with trainloads of such materiel and men to be transported to the Western Front. The pre-assembled track sections were used at the front, as recently demonstrated in an episode of Portillo's Great Continental Railway Journeys.

Re: Is this Longmoor?

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:19 pm
by Bryan
From comments and other photos on the site were I found this.
It is almost certainly Longmoor Camp in Hampshire post 1918.

I am still of the opinion that this collection of equipment is amassed for a dispersal auction.

Re: Is this Longmoor?

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:50 pm
by 2512silverfox
As a random sample, it would be very unusual to find North British and Caledonian wagons that far South. Coould it possibly be a depot somewhere North of the Border? ALso somewhat puzzled by the pneumatic tyres - a feature not common on WW1 transport.

Re: Is this Longmoor?

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:42 pm
by Rlangham
Pneumatics were used on light trucks such as the Ford Model T, Crossley etc, and also on trailers pulled by motor transport - I haven't seen trailers like this before but they look similar to the long trailers used by the Royal Flying Corps to transport aircraft. Quite a few appear to have water tanks on the back so may have been a post-WW1 design for water cart trailers (during WW1 they were horse drawn)

The vehicles are definitely WW1 vintage

Re: Is this Longmoor?

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:02 am
by Platform10
Hi Bryan

I agree with Silverfox that maybe it's north of the border. How about on the border? Have you considered the vast Gretna cordite complex? My money would be on the sub depot at Mossband, which was retained after WW1 when Gretna was closed. Mossband later became known as Longtown Ammunition Depot. It was sited to the west of Longtown, Cumbria, north of the Esk and east of the Caley (now WCML). Just a thought.

Re: Is this Longmoor?

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 3:39 pm
by 52A
Another possibility from a friend, 0-4-0 named School of Gunnery and allocated to Shoeburyness from 1919. Built Nelson Reid 1902.

Re: Is this Longmoor?

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 3:44 pm
by strang steel
Yes, I think you are right 52A. I have blown the photo up until it pixellates too much, and it certainly looks like an 0-4-0, and not an 0-6-0 as I thought at first.

I don't think the LMR had any 0-4-0s.