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The LNER Encyclopedia • ID the industrial locomotive
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ID the industrial locomotive

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:19 pm
by Rlangham
From a book of historic photographs of Durham - described as 'the steam locomotive, No 1, owned by Ferens and Love, Cornsay Colliery circa 1910'. Would love to know what the two huge 'pots' are for either side of the smokebox

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Re: ID the industrial locomotive

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:35 pm
by richard
They're reminiscent of S&D-style sandboxes. I believe they had the nickname of "Quaker pickle jars" or something like that?

The loco itself has a strong Leeds look about - Hudswell Clarke or Manning Wardle, possibly? An earlier design - "primitive" in quite a few of the details. As well as the sandboxes (if that is what they are), the smokebox door is an old design.

Re: ID the industrial locomotive

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:40 pm
by Blink Bonny
Ay up!

I'd have though Manning, Wardle meself. Certainly the saddle tank is similar but the running plate reminds me of "Shannon," a George England design.

Interesting.

Re: ID the industrial locomotive

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:20 pm
by Andy W
This picture appears on page 158 of "The Industrial Railways & Locomotives of County Durham" Part 1 by Mountford and Holroyde (Industrial Railway Society 2006) and the loco is listed as MW 148/1865. it was sold on before 1914.

The big boxes either side of the smokebox look like sand containers to me. The photo in the book seems to show pipes leading down from the frame to the front of the leading driving wheels.

Re: ID the industrial locomotive

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:33 pm
by Bryan
Another one with a similar smokebox but this one is a Beyer Peacock.
But no pickle jars.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... Raikes.jpg

Re: ID the industrial locomotive

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:34 pm
by Blink Bonny
Cor!

Cecil Raikes at Southport!

That top hinged door was common on very early locos.